As much as I like Slackware, what unspawn is saying is A FACT (not his belief/opinion). You may dislike Red Hat for any reason (eg. marketing campaign), the fact remains that they have always been one of the top contributors to the linux kernel. Thanks to their developers' work smaller distros benefit.

Let's just be fair and give credit to others where it's due (regardless of your personal distro preferences)

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"Missouri" --- I detect no dishonesty in your statement. If Red Hat or Fedora is more reputable than the home page indicates then it will be bared out in the course of my experience and research. As it stands I have two positive recommendations from 2 hackers I don't know and have unknown allegiances as opposed to one homepage giving a negative recommendation and the homepage has no ability to deceive me or itself and oddly is allied with Fedora. That isn't even a contest... Fedora fell on its sword before the fight.

Now if I had any friends who worked with Sourceforge and they said Fedora was awesome I'd probably be very inclined to join the Fedora camp. As it stands I have two unsubstantiated claims versus one claim endorsed by Fedora. I trust hackers almost implicitly on hardware decisions but you find a lot of bias when it comes to software.

I don't know the Fedora developers... they could be the hardest working, brilliant and dedicated people on the planet but I do know false advertising... I don't like being lied to.

As of yet my interests and Fedora's interests do not mesh ( to my knowledge ) and I am more than happy to never mention or speak of the distribution. Z/Z

Moved: This thread is more suitable in <General> and has been moved accordingly to help your thread/question get the exposure it deserves.

Mr Noob, unspawn's interest isn't in your ideas, it's in the way
you present them. And I'd like to ask you stop mixing semi-technical
problems, personal attacks and pure paranoia up in posts, and placing
them in technical parts of the board. Trolling belongs in General.


And, just as a thought, maybe you should consider those favoured quotes
of yours, and apply some of the wisdom therein to your own activities:
"Attitude is no substitute for Competence", "Attitude is no substitute
for Ability."

If you can't handle Slackware right now, even after reading the slackbook on how to install it. I recommend you try Salix. Once you get used to it, you can then move to Slackware if you want.

They were not ideas... they were facts. The aforementioned homepage is making a dishonest representation of an OSs capabilities. My personal disgust with those who utilize dishonest marketing is also a fact. To express the extreme disgust I have for those that attempt to contort the truth to peddle their product I used an expression that was very concrete and easily understood.

Attacking me for happening to know something that you do not is not a valid defense of a disgusting business practice. Also baiting me into fully explaining my position and utilizing inflammatory comments to somehow provoke into a more emotional response so that you can bolster support for some social network approved action is more insulting to you than it is to me.

I have never exaggerated my ability so by attempting the turn the truism "Attitude is no substitute for Ability" against me is an ineffective way of trying to use my own strenght against me. You may think I have a personal investment in this post... you could not be more wrong.

If the aforementioned OS cannot stand up to criticism I would unkindly ask that it GTFO my Internet and attempt to whore itself out to the lowest common denominator elsewhere. Being banned from a forum run by narrow-minded people who dictate what I am allowed to believe and say is a reward not a punishment.

I all honesty this forum ceases to be of any importance to me the instant it stands in the way of me finding any truths I am seeking.

Actually I could go on and on but I think I have given you enough of the social network ammo you need to infuriate your peers and garner support for a ban.

See You On The Other Side,
Z/Z

This cannot be underestimated. Red Hat is a giant in linux. Thank you Red Hat, and Fedora....even though I've never been fond of Fedora, I recognise how important RHEL/Fedora is to linux as a whole.


I'd agree.

Rather than making sweeping claims, point out exactly where you think the Fedora homepage is being dishonest.

I could explain how the homepage is deceptive... but they would just make a dismissive gesture or fail to comprehend in the first place.

It's all trivial... I am hoping they will ban me shortly... I have never backed down from a fight for selfish reasons so I am prohibited from doing so now which means I cannot move on till the fight is resolved (The irony of it being selfish for adhering to such a notion is not lost on me). It wont take long, meat puppets value their egos over all things including (but not limited to) virtue. Z/Z

Wouldn't it be easier to just don't visit LQ anymore than making claims that you don't point out and being rude to get banned?
But LQ has an easy option for me to handle people like you: up to my ignore list.

There's an ignore list?! Is there an option to ignore posts from moderators (more aptly named "dictators" IMHO) because they usually cause more problems than they actually moderate problems.

Yes walking away would be easy... so is life for those that are still-born... here is a fact most people don't immediately grasp... I don't like Linux... I don't dislike Linux... is a construct like anything else in this universe be it a marshmallow or a donkey and is very limited (despite popular opinion)...

Learning is an ideal that is not a construct and therefore not limited... I am fond of learning and by extension I am fond of truth... by extension can you guess the things that oppose the things I am fond of?

I will make the argument powerfully easy for any member of this forum to resolve... simply say "we do not want you here" and I will go away... any member of this forum can do that regardless of position and I will comply.

I have no desire to lend my strenght to those who cannot wield it or do not want it. Z/Z

I recommend that you do try not to insult anyone or make statements that are insulting, unless you want to get banned. If that is your goal, then why did you come here ?

The mods have acted responsibly and accordingly.

If you want to learn more about Linux, this is one of the best places to do so, especially interactively. Don't deny yourself the chance to learn just because you want to spout insults at will.

Upon extremely close inspection the statement is not deliberately false or overly misleading ( two of the many flaws with using English for communication is connotation and misinterpretation )

I have no further comment at this time... Z/Z

They? Which they? Fedora? The forum members? The mods/admins?

If you cant be bothered to point out exactly what you have been ranting over, then was it even worth bringing up?

I hope the mods/admins dont perma-ban you....you've made it clear IMO that you enjoy being banned, you view it as some mark of respect or sign of 'honesty'. Perma-banning you would just stroke your ego.

The mods /admins here are very good IMO. They have given you enough rope.....

LinuxNoobX, emotions are temporary, in contrast to the consequences of the actions you perform during those emotions (if you perform any).
So, while somebody has some problems, others can help, but once you take action, it's often too late.
Now that I think of it, maybe that was the case with Whitney Houston: she didn't get, or didn't allow others (or the right people, like family?) to help her before it was too late.

I, for example, would like you here, and I would like to see more people here, not less.