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Old 09-05-2009, 06:49 PM   #1
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Streaming Audio on Etch


http://goons.fabcat.org/

I'm trying to get the above streaming audio cast to play on my DT. With Amarok I get “Error loading media” message which suggests I need to add/apt-get something the site can talk to. With Mplayer and Noaatun I get bupkiss.

I'm a complete newbie when it comes to media/linux.

Desktop
Mplayer
Amarok
Kaboodle
Jukemusic
Noatun

2.6GHz/512MB RAM/160GB HDD
HS Cable-Modem: (Motorola SURFBoard SB5101) direct to ISP (no router)

Deb/GNU 2.6.18-5-686 Etch (hd0) Qt: 3.3.7
2.6.18-5-686
KDE 3.5.5
Konqueror 3.5.5
Iceweasel 2.0.0.8
Icedove (Mozilla-Thunderbird 1.5.0.14pre)
 
Old 09-06-2009, 05:31 AM   #2
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You will be downloading a playlist rather than an mp3 file. Copy the shortcut and add it to Radio Streams.
If you can play MP3s you shouldn't have a problem. I tested it out in Amarok 1.3. The version of Amarok that is packaged with many distros may not be built for mp3's. You may need to install amarok from an alternate repo, such as Packman for SuSE or RPMFusion for Fedora. Xmms should also be able to play playlists.
 
Old 09-06-2009, 05:43 AM   #3
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If you have realplayer plugin installed, it will start when you click on the link.
Or use vlc
In a terminal:
 
Old 09-06-2009, 04:11 PM   #4
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You will be downloading a playlist rather than an mp3 file. Copy the shortcut and add it to Radio Streams.
I did that before. That's when I got the “Error loading media” message if I try to “Load” <http://goons.fabcat.org/64.pls> or enter it in “Search”.

Quote:
If you can play MP3s you shouldn't have a problem.
I don't know if I can play MP3's.
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I tested it out in Amarok 1.3. The version of Amarok that is packaged with many distros may not be built for mp3's.
Code:
~$ amarok --version
Qt: 3.3.7
KDE: 3.5.5
Amarok: 1.4.4
Can I do an “apt-get upgrade” to amarok to 2.0 ... or something?
Code:
~$ apt-cache search amarok
amarok - versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE
amarok-engines - output engines for the Amarok audio player
amarok-xine - xine engine for the Amarok audio player
kopete - instant messenger for KDE
lineak-kdeplugins - LinEAK KDE plugins
vorbisgain - add Replay Gain volume tags to Ogg Vorbis files
xmms-kde - MP3 player integrated into the KDE panel
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If you have realplayer plugin installed, it will start when you click on the link.
Or use vlc
In a terminal:<snip>
I don't seem to have vlc installed. Either that or I'm not configured so's amarok can find it.
 
Old 09-06-2009, 04:13 PM   #5
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I don't seem to have vlc installed. Either that or I'm not configured so's amarok can find it.
try
Code:
apt-get install vlc
 
Old 09-07-2009, 12:11 AM   #6
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The "amarok 1.3" was a typo. I normally use the same amarok version you do, but I needed to install it from the "packman" repository so it would play mp3's. I also needed libxine from the sam repo, because it is the backend. The sticky on top of the debian forum page may give instructions on which repo you need for debian.

I added the url to Playlists -> Radio Streams.
It was a very funny British program I listened to. Thanks.
 
Old 09-09-2009, 05:45 AM   #7
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Installed vlc, ran in terminal, found uri in playlist, but nothing happens when I open dialog box and click “play”.

In terminal I see:
Code:
~$ vlc http://goons.fabcat.org/64.pls
VLC media player 0.8.6a Janus
[00000289] main access error: Connection to 114.31.201.3 port 8064 failed: Connection timed out
[00000289] access_http access error: cannot connect to 114.31.201.3:8064
[00000289] main access error: Connection to 114.31.201.3 port 8064 failed: Connection timed out
[00000289] access_http access error: cannot connect to 114.31.201.3:8064
I thought to try another stream, BostonPete. The site does state vlc is recommended. But it also says “VLC Media Player is missing”.
I'm obviously in need of a clue on how to make vlc work.

In terminal:
Code:
~$ vlc http://radiotime.com/station/s_49151...Classical.aspx
VLC media player 0.8.6a Janus
[00000276] main playlist: nothing to play
Suffice it to say, I couldn't get BostonPete to play in Amarok either.

I haven't installed RealPlayer yet. It does seem to be available from one of my repos.

Apropos RealPlayer <http://wiki.debian.org/RealPlayer>

Code:
 ~$ apt-cache search realplayer
kmplayer-plugin - kmplayer plugin for khtml/konqueror
mplayer - The Movie Player


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The sticky on top of the debian forum page may give instructions on which repo you need for debian.
Either the alleged “sticky” came unstuck from the debian forum page(s) or you are thinking about a different forum. I can't find it. http://forums.debian.net/index.php

I hope you aren't thinking openSUSE. The only repos for Amarok from packman I can find relate to debian Suse. I'm running Etch on an i-386 processor and use apt-get. AFAICT, the Contents for i-386 in the Packman list of repos is empty.
<http://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/mirrors/packman/debian/dists/etch/?order=N>
 
Old 09-09-2009, 06:01 AM   #8
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The sticky where people post there repo lists have some with "non-free" in the description.
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...e.list-330913/

I'm sure a search on this site would turn up others.

I was using packman as an example of what "I needed" to add. For i386, you may need to build amarok yourself. Also, beware of libraries used for media being built using pentium/athlon media extensions.

Last edited by jschiwal; 09-09-2009 at 06:08 AM.
 
Old 09-09-2009, 08:24 AM   #9
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jschiwal;
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The sticky where people post there repo lists have some with "non-free" in the description.
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...e.list-330913/
...errr... the point is: that's not what you wrote. You cited the “debian forum”.

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I'm sure a search on this site would turn up others.
Indeed; but how is that helpful; exactly? I've been there. As I stated, I already have
Amarok installed... so what criteria do I need to .list a repo that has whatever it is my installation is missing?

Quote:
I was using packman as an example of what "I needed" to add.
I don't want to seem impolite, but I have to say I'm more than a little annoyed. You've got me traipsing after phantoms. I spent 3-4 hours trying to figure out what “packman” had to offer apropos my OS. Why would anyone care what 'you needed' if you're “examples” are peculiar to an entirely different distro?

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For i386, you may need to build amarok yourself. Also, beware of libraries used for media being built using pentium/athlon media extensions.
Riiight. I'll do that just as soon as I degauss the fragistat on my gnoortiphone. Unless I'm way out to lunch, my query was aimed at getting answers “a complete newbie when it comes to media/linux” could understand and hope to apply.

All I'm learning from you is; “Be afraid. Be very afraid.”
 
Old 09-09-2009, 07:33 PM   #10
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try
Code:
apt-get install vlc
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Woof!! After a lot of digging, it seems I need to "Compile" vlc. That's way over my head... esp. upon reading:<http://wiki.videolan.org/UnixCompile>

Perhaps I'm looking in the wrong places, but most of the bumph I can find on vlc by googling is peculiar to Ubuntu enthusiasts. What I can find apropos Debian/GNU etch suggests I need libxine1-ffmpeg,libcdio,libvcdinfo ... and on and on. It also seems these 'libs' are available from multiverse repos... but not from any of my sources.

I don't mind learning. But after reading some of the horror stories about messing up Desktops and Laptops by d/ling 'libs' from unsupported repos, I don't think I'm technically competent to venture down that path.

If you can suggest something fairly simple (or at least straightforward) to get vlc to handle streaming audio, I'll give it a go. But as it stands, I just don't feel I'm up to the task on my own.

Thanks for your help.
 
Old 09-10-2009, 03:17 AM   #11
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Take a look at
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-debian.html
 
Old 09-10-2009, 04:25 PM   #12
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Cool!

Per:
<http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-debian.html]
Quote:
Debian oldstable (etch)
A version (0.8.6) is packaged in etch. However, if you want libdvdcss (DVD decryption) support, you will need to add the following lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list:
# deb http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian etch main
# deb-src http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian etch main
[Done rws 10.09.09]
For a normal install, do:
# apt-get update
# apt-get install vlc libdvdcss2
Some errata appeared when I did the #apt-get update (below) that concern me. Just to allay my paranoia about d/ling stuff I don't really understand, perhaps you can comment before I do the install.

Apropos GPG error “NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907” it seems I can solve than from: <http://debian-multimedia.org/faq.php>
Quote:
Q. Why apt-get doesn't find this public key : NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907 ?

A. Install the debian-multimedia-keyring package with "dpkg -i debian-multimedia-keyring_2008.10.16_all.deb" (click on the link above to download the package).
And then do an 'apt-get update'.
Code:
# apt-get update
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot i386 NETINST Binary-1 20070204-08:45] etch Release.gpg
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot i386 NETINST Binary-1 20070204-08:45] etch Release
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot i386 NETINST Binary-1 20070204-08:45] etch/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot i386 NETINST Binary-1 20070204-08:45] etch/main Packages/DiffIndex
Get:1 http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release.gpg [835B]
Get:2 http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release [37.6kB]
Ign http://download.videolan.org etch Release.gpg
Ign http://download.videolan.org etch Release
Ign http://download.videolan.org etch/main Packages
Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://download.videolan.org etch/main Sources
Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Sources/DiffIndex
Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/contrib Sources/DiffIndex
Err http://download.videolan.org etch/main Packages
  404 Not Found
Get:3 http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Packages [356kB]
Err http://download.videolan.org etch/main Sources
  404 Not Found
Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/contrib Packages
Get:4 http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Sources [57.6kB]
Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/contrib Sources
Get:5 http://debian.yorku.ca etch Release.gpg [1032B]
Hit http://debian.yorku.ca etch Release
Ign http://debian.yorku.ca etch/main Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://debian.yorku.ca etch/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://debian.yorku.ca etch/main Sources/DiffIndex
Ign http://debian.yorku.ca etch/contrib Sources/DiffIndex
Hit http://debian.yorku.ca etch/main Packages
Hit http://debian.yorku.ca etch/contrib Packages
Hit http://debian.yorku.ca etch/main Sources
Hit http://debian.yorku.ca etch/contrib Sources
Get:6 http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch Release.gpg [197B]
Get:7 http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch Release [8347B]
Ign http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch Release
Get:8 http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch/main Sources [14.4kB]
Fetched 475kB in 22s (21.5kB/s)
Failed to fetch http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian/dists/etch/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
Failed to fetch http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian/dists/etch/main/source/Sources.gz  404 Not Found
Reading package lists... Done
W: GPG error: http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
 
Old 09-10-2009, 05:02 PM   #13
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In a terminal type:

Code:
gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 07DC563D1F41B907
gpg --armor --export 07DC563D1F41B907 | apt-key add -
apt-get update
 
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In a terminal type:

Code:
gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 07DC563D1F41B907
gpg --armor --export 07DC563D1F41B907 | apt-key add -
apt-get update
Hmmm... 'pas de joi'.

Code:
# gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 07DC563D1F41B907
gpg: requesting key 1F41B907 from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net

gpg: keyserver timed out
gpg: keyserver receive failed: keyserver error

royrogers:/home/rooster# gpg --armor --export 07DC563D1F41B907 | apt-key add -
gpg: WARNING: nothing exported
gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.

royrogers:/home/rooster# apt-get update
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot i386 NETINST Binary-1 20070204-08:45] etch Release.gpg
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot i386 NETINST Binary-1 20070204-08:45] etch Release
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot i386 NETINST Binary-1 20070204-08:45] etch/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot i386 NETINST Binary-1 20070204-08:45] etch/main Packages/DiffIndex
Get:1 http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release.gpg [835B]
Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release
Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Sources/DiffIndex
Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/contrib Sources/DiffIndex
Ign http://download.videolan.org etch Release.gpg
Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Packages
Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/contrib Packages
Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Sources
Ign http://download.videolan.org etch Release
Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/contrib Sources
Ign http://download.videolan.org etch/main Packages
Ign http://download.videolan.org etch/main Sources
Err http://download.videolan.org etch/main Packages
  404 Not Found
Err http://download.videolan.org etch/main Sources
  404 Not Found
Get:2 http://debian.yorku.ca etch Release.gpg [1032B]
Hit http://debian.yorku.ca etch Release
Ign http://debian.yorku.ca etch/main Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://debian.yorku.ca etch/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://debian.yorku.ca etch/main Sources/DiffIndex
Ign http://debian.yorku.ca etch/contrib Sources/DiffIndex
Hit http://debian.yorku.ca etch/main Packages
Get:3 http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch Release.gpg [197B]
Hit http://debian.yorku.ca etch/contrib Packages
Hit http://debian.yorku.ca etch/main Sources
Hit http://debian.yorku.ca etch/contrib Sources
Hit http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch Release
Err http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch Release

Get:4 http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch Release [8347B]
Ign http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch Release
Get:5 http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch/main Sources/DiffIndex [229B]
Fetched 8775B in 16s (528B/s)
Failed to fetch http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian/dists/etch/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
Failed to fetch http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian/dists/etch/main/source/Sources.gz  404 Not Found
Reading package lists... Done
W: GPG error: http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://download.videolan.org etch/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/download.videolan.org_pub_videolan_debian_dists_etch_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
 
  


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