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1ooo to 3000 P/E cycles per bit cell for consumer grade chips 10,000 enterprise grade chips
that's a pretty damn short life compared to magnetic storage
and the greater the chip density the fewer the P/E cycles for all chips
the more of the drive's capacity you use the shorter the life of the drive
I would only use an SSDs for the O/S and put log files , swap space and user data on a magnetic drive
OK I was way off on the drive life I was right on the bit cell life
in spite of that my point is SSDs will not make magnetic drives a thing of the past any time soon
maybe never
1ooo to 3000 P/E cycles per bit cell for consumer grade chips 10,000 enterprise grade chips
that's a pretty damn short life compared to magnetic storage
Actually no, it is not. Projected lifetime for all of my SSDs is well over 10 years (and yes, I have swap on the SSDs, why should I swap to the slow magnetic disks?), a time when they will be obsolete anyways. Usual lifetime for magnetic disks is not much different, mostly even shorter.
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1ooo to 3000 P/E cycles per bit cell for consumer grade chips 10,000 enterprise grade chips
that's a pretty damn short life compared to magnetic storage
and the greater the chip density the fewer the P/E cycles for all chips
the more of the drive's capacity you use the shorter the life of the drive
Yes, exactly, since my spinny drive doesn't have a wear-rate the spindle isn't worn and it isn't spinning up in about 1000% the time it used to. I've also no problems with any other magnetic-storage drives showing bad sectors.
Nope, only the SSDs will have any problems.
1ooo to 3000 P/E cycles per bit cell for consumer grade chips 10,000 enterprise grade chips
that's a pretty damn short life compared to magnetic storage
and the greater the chip density the fewer the P/E cycles for all chips
the more of the drive's capacity you use the shorter the life of the drive
I would only use an SSDs for the O/S and put log files , swap space and user data on a magnetic drive
OK I was way off on the drive life I was right on the bit cell life
in spite of that my point is SSDs will not make magnetic drives a thing of the past any time soon
maybe never
8 billion cells for an 8GB drive, times 3000 cycles, that takes a long time.
it's really short compared to magnetic drives
multimedia work maybe 1 month
for data base or spread sheet work maybe 6 months
computer programming work maybe 1 year
swap space could kill it in a week
it's what the applications are doing that accounts for 95% of the read write cycles less than 5% are the user saving to long term storage
it's really short compared to magnetic drives multimedia work maybe 1 month
for data base or spread sheet work maybe 6 months
computer programming work maybe 1 year
swap space could kill it in a week
it's what the applications are doing that accounts for 95% of the read write cycles less than 5% are the user saving to long term storage
No, I've been using a revodrive for years as scratch.
You cannot write to every cell on a drive even 1000 times in a month. Cannot be done, not enough time, even if you run something that writes at maximum speed 24/7.
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swap space could kill it in a week
Any evidence of this happening?
I admit I'm still a little sceptical of SSDs despite having used them in this EEE for years but, as I see it, spinny drives have their own problems with things like overheating, bad sectors, bad bearings and the like that mean in use they're no more stable.
You're giving the answer yourself. IF... If the cost per byte for HDD stays the same and SSD can catch up with them, SSD will probably replace them. But till now the cost/byte for HDD has be going down and it looks than it will be following this trend for the comming years. So SSD is still in the catch-up fase.
As for the enough storage capacity. There was a time that 20MB was more than enough, then 200MB was a lot, now someone mention that 250GB is enough. In a few years people probably will pity you if you tell them you have less than 2TB in your system.
Besides the real use for HDD is not the home user but the big data centers. And I dont think Google or facebook are going to replace all their harddisks for solid state, unless there is a very compelling economical reason.
When will we reach that point, I dont know. I remember that when floating point processors were still an optional item, someone calculated that the price of the copro had to be less than 1/3th of the main processor before people added them to their systems.
There is probably a compareable price point where people decide they going to replace their HDDs with SSDs. Mind you, I'm talking about replacing not adding to. Most people that replace their system disk still keep 1 or more terabyte harddisks around for storage of their data.
And to quote the great writer Samuel Clemens - 'The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated.'
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