Hi Guys,

To many, the American Dream is the idea that it's possible for Americans to secure a better material life for themselves through hard work. However, in the words of historian James Truslow Adams, "... it is not a dream of motor cars and high wages merely, but a dream of social order in which each man and each woman shall be able to attain to the fullest stature of which they are innately capable..." The American Dream is much more than a house, two children, and a car in the garage. It's also the idea that Americans can strive for a life of proud individualism, recognition, and personal liberty.

American society (except cops) is well structured, you get a job easily if you work hard, people are much more friendly and open than in EU, and so on.

What your point of view?

Which of the two are you posting from, Xeratul?

I believe that one shall live a while in EU and US to get a better point of view.

I've not lived in the US, though I have visited, talked to many Americans and obviously see a lot about the states in the media. I've very temporarily lived in another European country and I've visited a few more. On balance, personally, I would rather live in Europe (though not the UK where I currently do) but I really don't think one is "better" than the other -- they're just different.
The places I would like to live are Scandinavia, due to high standard of living and general cleanliness and friendliness, and The Netherlands due to a liberal attitude a climate I could enjoy (I'm from the North of England so I'm not built for hot, dry, places) and being well placed to visit the rest of Western Europe.

Grew up in U.S. Now live in Central America (Nicaragua). More freedom here.

Well somebody's got to be

Indeed! Who would eat all the pies otherwise?

Ha Ha that's where they all went!

It varies. Lots of different states in the USA, lots of different countries in Europe and they are all different.

As a general tendency, yes, better and higher paying jobs in the USA. There is also a greater openness and job mobility in the USA compared to the EU. Things in the EU tend to be more restrictive, people are told where to live in some countries. In many countries there is also paralyzing bureaucracy in Europe, much more so than in the USA.

Red Headed girls with freckles that have a southern drawl.

That is my take and I am sticking to it.

They should have put English subtitles on it .

When I lived in Japan a guy I met from Belgium said he had to pay 80% of his pay in tax. Thought he was kidding.

Shame that people are so down on cops. We do need them and they need both better pay, better people, better training and better community support.

I prefer to live in Texas. I've lived in many other parts of the world and US. I think there is a good mix of freedom and restrictions. My self build home sits on 25 acres looking over a valley running on nothing but rainwater and electricity. Although I did build it to national codes and better, I couldn't have built it in the near nut case city. If I had known when I built it that I didn't need a license to build a septic system, I wouldn't have paid that money either.

Sadly my opinion of the US is that there are too many crooks. EU is finding out the hard way that letting huge numbers if immigrants in results in a very unpleasant side effect of crime, violence and tax upon the welfare state.

Far as I'm aware that could be literally true but it's phrased to suggest that income tax is around 80% which it is most certainly not. He was most likely referring to things like fuel duty and VAT, in their compound state, leading to the price of an awful lot of things being mainly tax.
It's not everybody's cup of tea I'm sure but, for example, I'm reliably informed that crime is almost non-existent in Bruges (without the need for weaponry ) and the standard of life is so high that contentment rules.
I'm prone to Libertarian or even anarcho-capitalist thoughts myself but if you visit the highly-taxed European areas you'll find there's no lack of wealth and they're generally very safe.

I think this is highly subjective and probably just wrong. There are many, perhaps even the majority of immigrants in the US that decided to come here, often at considerable risk and even peril, exactly to make a better life for themselves. It is nearly a cliche that many immigrants will house numerous families in a single family dwelling and work two jobs and go to school just to get ahead. If it wasn't so sad it would be hilarious how many Americans complain about immigrants "stealing their jobs" when generally the jobs they "steal" are ones that are apparently beneath the "dignity" of those very same complainers. Crime, violence and welfare are largely the result of minimized options to improve oneself and family and such prejudice creating such repression only serves as a self-fulfilling prophecy.

What you said is not very nice against other immigrants.

Several studies have shown several times the strong relation between education and integration in the society. If the government do not do anything to educate people or offer continuing education or trainings, or even coaching, then, who is really gilty?

In NL, they offer some fitness for free to the population even.

Taking the univ. ranking, the highest level of education is in UK, Belgium, NL, US,...

"Education
is The Most
Powerful
Weapon
Which You
Can Use To
Change The
World"
N. Mandela

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