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I've got my 9 gigs of .Ogg files on a seperate partition/drive that windows can't see or has access to.....ha ha
Uncle Bill and/or the RIAA can shove it, this is MY Computer and I'll keep/play my music on it if I want.
Hey, only there is one problem. The bad guy's are planning to make it impossible to execute "unwanted" software on a computer. Even if you would still be able to even run linux, because your hardware is designed in such a way, you wont be able to play those ogg files.
Kind of how the xbox is right now, you can only execute m$ approved code, unless you hack the xbox that is.
Just a thought, maby the xbox is the for runner of the computer of the future. What if m$ starts to put more and more stuff in the xbox up to the point when the device can compete with a regular pc. The xbox could drive the pc out of the market. A long shot, but still.... scary
I don't think it's going to be a problem. As long as there is a market or demand for real pc's (without tc), they will produce it.
Just the way how economy works.
It may be a problem in the US if congress can be convinced or bought into believing that this would cut down drastically on terrorist and other illegal activity without limting personal freedom too much.
They could easily make it illegal to import hardware without TC, then we'd be forced to waste resources bypassing the thing (also illegal, but unethical? I don't think so).
hey, isn't 2024 bit encryption illegal in the US?!, and they say thats what the TC platforms will use?, ummm sounds more like a government plot to me (would make sense, as it is a big encryption (last i heard anything above 256 bits was illegal, just to be safe ill say 512 bit (and i do believe even thats still illegal), and the only way the government would let such encryption happen is either cause they got a nice back-door(in this case possibly the ability to directly dictate what we can look at/ can use,,, or can they break it without a sweat..... .. been fishy, and getting fisher
why bother with smuggling computers?, id say move outa the country, (or get your state to leave the US so all those silly laws wont exist no more)
This could be disastrous for users of software products that have no open source alternative, like Flash MX and Adobe PageMaker. In the future these companies might make their products uninstallable on computers where the user disabled TC.
Or Microsoft might make important parts of the OS usable only if TC is turned on. Imagine if some new protocol or technology was introduced but it would only work in Windows if TC was turned on. Then everyone would be forced to turn on TC!
If people used secure OS's to begin with no one would need this new crap. If we can show the world the superior and more secure OS fast enough, no one will see the need to conform to M$'s madness.
0pal_t0ad: exactly, if the government cant break into it then its illegal..
actually i do more think the NSA, they are the cyber terrorism group that pretty much makes the Internet and computers a living hell, as trying to illegalize anything they cant break..... thats one reason why i think DES is not very secure, as it did convince the government in charge of standards to use DES,, then trying to do pretty much whatever to try and spy on people (they have taped the phone lines and use computers to monitors calls and record it if key words are used, altho it is illegal today to purposely spy on individuals without a reason, they can monitor randoms people at random times and just call it a coincidence, and sometimes just call it a matter of "national security" and don't say anything else..)....... big fat government jerks!
Originally posted by mikshaw I don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised if you were right....
Gov't Man: "you're not allowed to use anything until we have something better"
i dont see the problem with this. are you a terrorist? got something to hide? unless the government has the power to seize/view your personal stuff when needed, they would be powerless to prevent disasters.
i dont see the problem with this. are you a terrorist? got something to hide? unless the government has the power to seize/view your personal stuff when needed, they would be powerless to prevent disasters.
when needed are the key words,
with this TC stuff, they can do anything they want,, trying to run for president?, what if the president can look at your computer and track everything you do and put anything anyone can find bad about you on line
and do i have things to hide? yes i know i do, thats why i wear cloths in public, thats why passwords exist so that other people cant pretend to be me easily, so i can play a game, i don't want people looking and spying on me, thats just not right.. only perverts do that (speaking of which... i always thought government people were sick perverts)
94gsr: what is your email address, email password, the password to your computer, your phone number, your have address, your families home address and phone number, your bank account number, your credit card number and password, and a description of what you look like ?
a refusal to answer any of those things means your statement is bogus about having nothing to hide,
i feel we all have things to hide, and we all like our privacy (if you don't then go get naked and go to a tropical island with others like you and you can do anyhitng anytime (and i mean anything, I'm not sure i can say it so i wont,,,, but you get the drift with naked people and sick people.... (of which is illegal, and sadly happens to often to too many girls (and it ain't pregnancy)
Originally posted by 94gsr i dont see the problem with this. are you a terrorist? got something to hide? unless the government has the power to seize/view your personal stuff when needed, they would be powerless to prevent disasters.
The terrorist idiology is just a scapegoat being used so they can track you when they want and see what you are doing. Same problem exists with the carnivore technology. Why should someone else be able to go into my computer when they wanted to see what I have? It's like me going to my neighbors house, kicking the door in and looking around just cause I was curious.
Well maybe not a terrorist, but just because I love my privacy doesnt make me a criminal either. Everybody has skeletons in they'e closet, we have all done things were ashamed of. Doesnt mean they dot have a right to keep it private. And yes, a technology that would eliminate child porn would be wonderfull. But not at the stake of my privacy. Sorry, being raped of your privacy doesnt = safety. How soon we all forget? Do you remember a famous quote along the lines of "give me liberty or give me death!" Well those people knew and remembered quite clearly what it meant to live without it. And if death is better, well than keep your damn tc/drm/pallidium/gov control/whatever your fricken label it.
Last edited by xodustrance; 05-06-2004 at 09:21 PM.
A related quote from Ben Franklin, which has always appealed to me:
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security"
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