The Faith & Religion mega Thread

The same people who brought you Santa Claus brought you the AK-47, gold plated!

Oh don't blame religion for the people who warp their minds around it,,, how else could they "believe" in fairy tales unless religion‽

It's a win-win: they get billions in the Vatican and you get peace of mind when you die but wait there's more, original sin It slices it dices it gives you any plethora of fairy tales that we suckers will believe...

"Heaven" forbid you live for something here on Earth even if "hell" doesn't exist!

Originally Posted by jamison20000e I'm still waiting to hear religions-explanations(/military-intelligence :oxymorons) on why their "gods" or whatever insist on us pooping? I could do without...

Could ask same question(i know what it is like to have undeserved(cause it started at age of innocence which is supposed to be bliss and stress free times) diarrhea)..but that means wiki(a) info is valid. But what i don't understand from wiki(a) is how many of those "Gods" are there and are they good or bad or neutral or something else? One article claims 1 Second article 2 Third something else like 3+ and comics even more..as limited being my brain does not have yet IQ enough to calculate outcome.

Originally Posted by Arcane Could ask same question(i know what it is like to have undeserved(cause it started at age of innocence which is supposed to be bliss and stress free times) diarrhea)..but that means wiki(a) info is valid. But what i don't understand from wiki(a) is how many of those "Gods" are there and are they good or bad or neutral or something else? One article claims 1 Second article 2 Third something else like 3+ and comics even more..as limited being my brain does not have yet IQ enough to calculate outcome.

Wait, did you just say Wikipedia was valid if I don't put my gods up there right now and food isn't green when I eat a pickle..?

Reality exists when I eat food and I poop it exists, where's your proof stuff exist Arcane‽

BW-userx obviously has none but in his own head soon-to-be, peace out y'all... just let us know if you go and they won't!

You can be a dreamer but when it comes time to be a teacher get your facts straight! Evolution can agree on that!

Gardens do not grow on their own but are forestsed*** do!!!!!!!

So, you're obviously the creator unless you're a moron‽

yeah that's like someone telling me to put on my shoes and socks.. really backwards ass sumobiches.. someone buy them a sandwich so they can see poop some time afterwords.

Originally Posted by jamison20000e The same people who brought you Santa Claus brought you the AK-47, gold plated!

Guns are good - even Jesus used one to conquer the Romans

We'll eventually teach the kids right and wrong, not: right, wrong and wrong!

If we we're aliens learning religions along side theories, what the f is the difference‽
Neither have proof, or they'd be fact supported by all. Like our poop goes back to our world, Lucky for you I'm organic!

And* simply believing what you're born into, or choose to, like the "flat-earthers" that exist today... &sin..

"Why would life matter if we're just going to die and rot, not existing anymore? What's worth anything if there's no lord and saviors;" [theatrical]just shoot yourselfs in the face like all gun owners should do,z,z,z[/theatrical] we'll clean up the mess - instant - evolution - for a change.

If all man does is be born, live, and die then rot in a hole without any thing afterwords but the worms to eat the rotting flesh.

There is no right or wrong, there is no need of a moral code to live by. Because no one has to answer to anyone in the end, not even himself. The world will be in a state of chaos.

Man needs order, a set of rules to live by so peace and harmony is had.

if one does not even understand the basics of the human needs, by the time they've reach the age of 30 even, then what they hell have they been doing with their lives?

Does not understand that everyone does not always agree on everything, then how can they come to a conclusion on what right and wrong really is?

what is right for one, may not be right for the other. Selfishness, and self-centerness always seeps in. In one form or another.


I die and rot in a hole, so I am going to just live my life as I see fit, enjoying the good life. and if I bump a few heads in the way, so what? in the long run it does not even matter, for what short life one has on this earth.

when all is said and done, and I die, along with them the I bumped heads with, someone else will just come long and do the same. nothing changes so why bother trying..


just leave me to my vices, and I'll be just fine.


food,drink, and living the "good life" because that is all I have to look forward too. and if you do not agree with what I call a good life, who are you to say different?

If I want a different woman every night, along with a wife and children, who is it so say that is wrong, or right?

Who am I hurting if they all agree, along with me? If that is my right way of living, because I am how I am, and that is how I want to live my live, and their is no other to tell me different. Who are you to tell me different?

we are all just people here that cropped up out of nothingness, and go back to it in the end.


NO one has any right to tell me right from wrong, NO one is better then I, nor am I better then the other.

so who does that other one think he is to tell me what is right and what is wrong? that is his option. he can keep that to himself.

Originally Posted by jamison20000e We'll eventually teach the kids right and wrong, not: right, wrong and wrong! If we we're aliens learning religions along side theories, what the f is the difference‽ Neither have proof, or they'd be fact supported by all. Like our poop goes back to our world, Lucky for you I'm organic! And* simply believing what you're born into, or choose to, like the "flat-earthers" that exist today... &sin.. "Why would life matter if we're just going to die and rot, not existing anymore? What's worth anything if there's no lord and saviors;" [theatrical]just shoot yourselfs in the face like all gun owners should do,z,z,z[/theatrical] we'll clean up the mess - instant - evolution - for a change.

Geez jameson, what are you on about, or just "on" this time? WTH is "right, wrong and wrong"? The term "and" is a conjunction which links two slightly different things noting some similarity. "wrong and wrong" is an identity and needlessly repetitive unless you're using it in the vernacular like "done and done" which is simply for emphasis. Is that it?

What have aliens to do with theories and religions? Religions and theories are very different no matter what entity is contemplating them. Also did you mean "we're", a contraction of "we are", or "were" a past tense verb? It has already been explained here many times that there is a huge difference between "hypothesis" and "theory". Religion at best is a hypothesis, and one, I should add, that has no objective evidence whatsoever in addition to the fact that many tenets are demonstrably false. The rest are simply incapable of even calculating odds of probability of being correct. "Theories", OTOH, are testable, falsifiable, and when they continue to resist being shown false as more and more evidence is gathered they begin to accrue increasing probability and at some point crossing the 50/50 point where the odds begin to shift to "likely" and at some of incremental increase, nearer to certainty.

It's as simple as finding oneself on unfamiliar ground and wondering if it is safe to take a step in some direction. You look around and see that what your standing on is grassy ground and to the North is more of the same while to the South is a cliff face and 500 feet of transparent air down to a distant body of water with rocks protruding from the crashing waves, or worse, a completely black void of invisibility. It is far safer, since you are supported by the grassy ground you find yourself on, to assume it is more likely to survive a step to the North than the South. You don't need to leap. You can just gingerly feel the area to the North and South and note that your foot is not supported by air, but feels solid to the North and cautiously take one step. The next step should be more confidant now that you've noted the characteristics your eyes perceive as "solid" vs/ "insubstantial". After many steps you are justified in walking somewhat briskly and eventually not even worrying about it. To a baby, walking is a theory but as time and experimentation and practice occur that theory approaches certainty. That's the difference between Religion and Theory, leaping into the unknown (and unknowable) vs/ tested evidence and escalating patterns of reliability.

What is this?...

Originally Posted by jameson20000e "Why would life matter if we're just going to die and rot, not existing anymore? What's worth anything if there's no lord and saviors;"

Since it's in quotation marks it seems likely you are quoting someone... who? As for the question I think it completely ignores Time. It is just as meaningful to ask "Why should I wash my face? It's only going to get dirty again eventually" or "Why should I eat? I'm only going to get hungry again later." We are not going to rot since what characteristic we have to identify ourselves as a sentient being and experience anything will in all likelihood not be around to witness or experience rotting. We can't know if we are anything more than our bodies but that part that makes our bodies continue to process food and thoughts provably ceases to function, whatever that or those parts are.

The point is we don't really need something outside ourselves, something bigger than "all of this" to give our lives meaning. We can choose goals that give us meaning and if we choose goals that coincide with others and advance the value of living we are a part of something larger than just ourselves and striving for a positive outcome for ourselves and others. How is that not worthwhile? Seems to me it beats being a rock for as long as it lasts.

Enorbet: the second quote in your post is a quote of a "" they are both quotes but not the same... just like my wrong versus you're wrong, that's not too thick to understand is it?

Originally Posted by BW-userx If all man does is be born, live, and die then rot in a hole without any thing afterwords but the worms to eat the rotting flesh. There is no right or wrong, there is no need of a moral code to live by. Because no one has to answer to anyone in the end, not even himself. The world will be in a state of chaos. Man needs order, a set of rules to live by so peace and harmony is had.

The reason we're learning and doing is to pass it on; so, if you want morons who can't live for themselves, teach people that way and have no clue how precious life is cuz they think they're going to get a golden poop in the end...

My quote was made up to represent the quote idea above...