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Old 07-05-2011, 03:19 PM   #1786
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Don't know if you're counting me among the people who are rejecting
I can only judge (sic) based on what I hear you say. As of yet I've not heard that you believe Jesus is God's Son, nor that he died to pay our penalty for human sin, nor that he was literally raised from the dead. Ultimately, Christ ascended visibly to heaven, is at the right hand of God, and will return quite literally. This is what I confess is fundamental to being in fact a Christian. Do you recognize such as this, or reject it?
 
Old 07-05-2011, 03:32 PM   #1787
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I can only judge (sic) based on what I hear you say. As of yet I've not heard that you believe Jesus is God's Son, nor that he died to pay our penalty for human sin, nor that he was literally raised from the dead. Ultimately, Christ ascended visibly to heaven, is at the right hand of God, and will return quite literally. This is what I confess is fundamental to being in fact a Christian. Do you recognize such as this, or reject it?
I have to prove nothing to you, and certainly don't have to answer any of your questions. I don't need your stamp of approval, and wouldn't want it, based on your poor logic, reasoning, and (from what I've read), tenuous grasp on things.

This site is not the place to start religion based threads...the moderators will allow this to continue as long as they see fit. After that, I'm sure you'll whine about "censorship", and how no one is letting you spread the "truth", and start another thread in the same vein. Lather, rinse, repeat...as I've said before, I don't like to feed the trolls, and think you've certainly been fed enough here.
 
Old 07-05-2011, 04:10 PM   #1788
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Sorry TBone. I thought by your lead into your last comment, you wondered whether I considered you to be Christian. That's my definition. And the only reason I asked you, is that it's by "confession," with our lips (sic) we are justified.
 
Old 07-05-2011, 04:16 PM   #1789
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Sorry TBone. I thought by your lead into your last comment, you wondered whether I considered you to be Christian. That's my definition. And the only reason I asked you, is that it's by "confession," with our lips (sic) we are justified.
I didn't wonder, or care, what you considered to be true or not. Still don't. I am, whether you think so or not.

Your definitions of things are not too firmly defined, and I'm confident that no matter WHAT anyone says, you'll pick it apart, and say "See?? I KNEW he/she/it wasn't! Only *I* know the TRUTH!".
 
Old 07-05-2011, 04:25 PM   #1790
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I'm confident that no matter WHAT anyone says, you'll pick it apart, and say "See?? I KNEW he/she/it wasn't! Only *I* know the TRUTH!".
No, he usually skips the bolded part.
 
Old 07-05-2011, 04:27 PM   #1791
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no matter WHAT anyone says, you'll pick it apart, and say "See?? I KNEW he/she/it wasn't! Only *I* know the TRUTH!".
Actually, there are hundreds of thousands, if not millions of Evangelical Christians who would agree. I'm not the only one, nor do I claim to be. Just because the people with "leverage" here seem to disagree, doesn't mean I'm an island.
 
Old 07-05-2011, 04:36 PM   #1792
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Actually, there are hundreds of thousands, if not millions of Evangelical Christians who would agree. I'm not the only one, nor do I claim to be. Just because the people with "leverage" here seem to disagree, doesn't mean I'm an island.
A number of people that share opinion means nothing. Millions of people can be wrong.
Even if there are people that agree with you, it doesn't mean you're right. Any number of people can be mistaken, and any number of people can share same misconceptions.
 
Old 07-05-2011, 04:38 PM   #1793
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A number of people that share opinion means nothing. Millions of people can be wrong.
Even if there are people that agree with you, it doesn't mean you're right. Any number of people can be mistaken, and any number of people can share same misconceptions.
See --> Global Warming. :stirpot:
 
Old 07-05-2011, 04:48 PM   #1794
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A number of people that share opinion means nothing. Millions of people can be wrong.
I'm not using numbers as a basis for my position, but as an answer to part of TBone's assumption:

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Only *I* know the TRUTH!".
As though I claim to have a monopoly on truth. There are many besides me.
 
Old 07-05-2011, 04:57 PM   #1795
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God created us "in his image," with regard to his character, not substance.
There is nothing in the Bible to support your "Character/Substance" statement. The problem with most religions is that people conflate their own arguments of "therefore it must be" with what is actually stated in whatever one's sacred books are. I am not so egoistical as to exault my status and my beliefs to that of the divine.

There is the Bible, and then there are your version of it and my version of it. The three are not the same. Know your place.
 
Old 07-05-2011, 05:02 PM   #1796
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The 7 of you rejecting it just proves either your blindness, your carelessness, or your irrationality.
By the way, doesn't your behavior qualify for the sin of pride? I might be mistaken here, but you seem to think that people that are not believing in christ are "blind", "careless" or "irrational". I.e. inferior - to you. Plus you were interested in number of thread views that is normally unheard of on a forum (people worry about hits only if they're talking about adsense and their website, which isn't the case in this situation). Overall this doesn't exactly fit the behavior of a "good christian" (at least not according to information I've been exposed to during the course of my life).
 
Old 07-05-2011, 05:15 PM   #1797
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By the way, doesn't your behavior qualify for the sin of pride?
If there is some ego in it, yet it's in check, at least as was that of the Apostle Paul, who said, But I refrain, so no one will think more of me than is warranted by what I do or say, or because of these surpassingly great revelations. Therefore, in order to keep me from becoming conceited, I was given a thorn in my flesh.
 
Old 07-05-2011, 05:37 PM   #1798
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@bluegospel

The only reason I (and probably most of the people who viewed this thread) clicked on it is because of the obscure thread title. The fact that out of this huge number
only a few members replied to you probably means that most are really fed up with the topic.

Enjoy your trolling session

I'm out.
 
Old 07-05-2011, 05:52 PM   #1799
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As of yet, I've heard a lot of rhetoric, but very little question regarding the answers I've given your original challenges, besides your purport of my "blatently poor logic."
 
Old 07-05-2011, 07:35 PM   #1800
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Your soul is the basis of what you are, your being, in the context of eternity. Your spirit is joined to your soul as your "light," giving you sight and sensation. (For now, these are joined to your body).
Questions.
Whats the context of eternity?
Humans have 9 sockets (including nose, mouth etc and excluding pores). Are any of these used to join the spirit to the body?
 
  


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