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Old 04-04-2019, 10:54 PM   #16
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That last post made sense.I really mean that.

Shouldn't Mad Magazine be having a field day all the time?

I would think since the 90's things have been 'out of whack'.

That would be ample material for them.

Witness the interest in how Saturday Night Live makes fun of things.

They even mention the Trump bits on CNN quite a lot.

I think the public is crying out for somebody to help them laugh at

how ridiculous some aspects of American like have become.

Except I went on Mad's website and it looked fairly lifeless.

You could not even see a partial issue like they do on Amazon for books.

I have to struggle while writing here not to start satirizing situations.

Because they are so 'out there'. Out of balance.Absurd.

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Old 04-04-2019, 11:07 PM   #17
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Satire example.

Andy Rooney

'Did you ever notice how Nancy Pelosi does not seem like she would be fun to joke around with?'

or

'Did you ever notice how Donald Trump would not be the best person to discuss Shakespeare with?'

Equal time to both sides.
 
Old 04-05-2019, 12:27 AM   #18
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But the basic question holds should the US media outlets be regulated as a business for profit like any other?
this actually makes sense to me.
since the primary goal is not to disseminate information ("truth") but to make a profit.

or, does that mean that in the USA different rules apply to "The Press" compared to other companies?
 
Old 04-05-2019, 01:04 AM   #19
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does that mean that in the USA different rules apply to "The Press" compared to other companies?
The freedom of the press is explicitly included in the constitution.

They probably should have included the responsibility of the public to turn away from worthless sensationalism and outright lies, but it was probably considered a given at the time. In other words, if there is a market for garbage, there is no rule against it for the press. Libel and slander apply, but those laws are much weaker in the U.S. compared to Britain. To be fair, I've watched foreign news while in other countries, and the U.S. does not enjoy a monopoly on garbage. I was at times quite impressed with Channel 4 though.

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Equal time to both sides.
Satire: Did you ever notice a third party?

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Old 04-05-2019, 01:46 AM   #20
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Enorbet Could you send me a PM?Could you tell me what happened to Slackware?I have 10 year

old paid for disk set.Then Slackware kind of lost me somewhere along the line.

Sorry everybody.Needed to get that out of the way.

Enorbet Please? Forgot my manners.
Sorry but for some reason I can't PM you. Either you have selected to not receive PMs or for some other reason you are prohibited. Please check your settings and status to deal with this and I'd be happy to answer any questions you have.
 
Old 04-05-2019, 01:55 AM   #21
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I am for guidelines labeling what it it is and warnings.
Protecting the public.The media can still say what they were going to
say.
The same way adult content has a layer in front of it.
I think the media needs to be called on the 'non news' aspects of some
of what they are doing.
They are basically 'slipping something else in' along with news.
People would protest against food or medication being giving to them unkowingly.
Now it is time for the government to extend the rules to mind or mood affecting elements.
'Hey.You're messing with my mind!' in essence.
Just like your example of food and medication, in regards to news, just because it's put in front of you or even "prescribed" one doesn't have to ingest it. By having the full gamut of agenda available and unregulated one can form a pretty solid concept of the overall condition of whatever is supposedly newsworthy, in effect, The Big Picture. With regulation that vision is obscured and (it should be obvious) blocked.
 
Old 04-05-2019, 03:49 PM   #22
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And, no, I don't believe regulation is the answer.

An informed and knowledgeable citizenry that doesn't fall for garbage is the answer.

And that's what we here in the States most certainly do not have.
[/TIRADE MODE]
Excellent post frank. Intellectual levels were much higher years ago, especially "founding fathers days", compare the "standard tests" in school from early 1900's versus the average press article being written at a 5th grade level today. Ref: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/1912-...exam_n_3744163

As the general population continues to be "dumbed down" the occurrence of filth, drivel and idiocracy will only increase, and the press caring little about truth and only about profit and agendas is ready to force feed the masses from its silver spoon, or golden tit (take your pick). Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumbing_down

Education, promotion of morals/virtues (honor, integrity, honesty etc...) and a truly free and independent press that comes from the people not corporations or political parties will be a good solution. Time to bust up the Illusion of Choice: https://www.businessinsider.com/thes...america-2012-6
 
Old 04-08-2019, 09:56 PM   #23
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/08/o...of-satire.html
 
Old 04-08-2019, 10:33 PM   #24
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Enorbert

I just made a boo boo and lost what I was saying to you.

Quick version.I will fix PM's.

When I saw the Slackware in your 'profile' I said to myself 'Ooh.I better talk to him!'.

Since then I have seen quite a few users with Slackware in theirs too.

So let me know what you think.

Maybe I could just ask in Slackware sub forum.
 
Old 04-08-2019, 11:18 PM   #25
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Did somebody say satire?

This was overheard after Nancy Pelosis stole away for a moment together with the president in a White House closet.

'Goose step over my border you Fascist running dog!'

'I've fantasized about you wearing a Red Guard outfit!'

'You brute! Quote stock prices to me again!'

'Make me your slave my revolutionary temptress!'

'Talk mergers.You know what that does to me!'

'Talk distribution of wealth my love monkey!'

'Tell me how you want to push the button on (that North Korean guy).

Ya da da duh Yuh de da duh.Thank you! Thank you!

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Old 04-09-2019, 04:21 AM   #26
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Did somebody say satire?

This was overheard after Nancy Pelosis stole away for a moment together with the president in a White House closet.

'Goose step over my border you Fascist running dog!'

'I've fantasized about you wearing a Red Guard outfit!'

'You brute! Quote stock prices to me again!'

'Make me your slave my revolutionary temptress!'

'Talk mergers.You know what that does to me!'

'Talk distribution of wealth my love monkey!'

'Tell me how you want to push the button on (that North Korean guy).

Ya da da duh Yuh de da duh.Thank you! Thank you!

All I can say is, feelings and people are things you can't trade. That IS an either/or situation. Either there's a merger or not, regardless of everything else.
 
Old 04-09-2019, 04:41 AM   #27
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Enorbert (sic)
I just made a boo boo and lost what I was saying to you.
Just FTR there are plugins/addons that reveal cached responses. I'm currently using Textarea on Firefox-FuckPA.
 
Old 04-09-2019, 05:53 AM   #28
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[TIRADE MODE]
And, no, I don't believe regulation is the answer.

An informed and knowledgeable citizenry that doesn't fall for garbage is the answer.

And that's what we here in the States most certainly do not have.
[/TIRADE MODE]
Education is the enemy of the privileged ruling elites. You cannot have elections or referendums where the general populace are fed lies, which they readily believe and vote accordingly, if you have proper education.

The proletariat are prepared for the "jobs market" from a young age, not to become independent and free thinking individuals, who might go on to make a better world. Individuals are something to be loathed. Those who don't conform, who don't follow the status quo are to be shunned, to force them to confirm. That's the construct of "society"...

The media, most of which - if you follow the money - are controlled by big corporations, all inextricably linked to political parties, who represent their interests (back scratching, for want of a better phrase), are simply a propaganda dissemination channel, representing one party or another - and ensuring the masses remain dumb and uninformed. At the root of it all - business interests and maintaining the wealth and lifestyles of the privileged.

All media - whether left or right - is a "product", which plays to sensibilities, prejudices, etc and affirms existing views.
 
Old 04-13-2019, 10:15 AM   #29
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slackwarenewbee,
You seem to be forming a pattern here. While I've been reticent to ban specific topics, LQ remains predominantly a technical fora and *all* of your recent posts have been in general and seemingly purposefully divisive. I'm going to ask you to refrain from posting in general at all for a while. Failure to do so will result in your posting privileges being revoked. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me directly.

--jeremy
 
Old 04-17-2019, 10:26 AM   #30
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though one prominent "news" network most certainly is),
All of the 24 hour cable news organizations are biased and sensationalist. There's not one that isn't. When you have to fill 24 hours of dead air with two hours of original news, what are you going to do to keep your viewers tuned in? How are you going to keep yourself in a job and a nice house?

But as to the question of, should the media be regulated, I find myself thinking that might not be so bad. Not so far as to start kicking people off the air, suspending press credentials, or removing broadcast licenses, because that could eventually be used by one side against the other in perpetuity. They go after us, then we go after them.

I'm more talking about requiring that all viewpoints be presented and given equal time, without the softball questions, the party-approved narratives, the hostility or "we tried to get in touch with them but they declined to appear or comment" (Yeah right LOL)
 
  


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