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I think it was a post on lwn.net that suggested Linux users pony up enough money to buy enough voting shares of SCO to punt the Board of Directors and the evil henchmen lawyers.
and they don't own much that is of any worth, the unix trade mark(not theirs,the open group) and most of the "good stuff" went out the door with the BSD vs. AT&T lawsuit(s). what SCO thought they were buying and what they actually did buy are 2 different things.
Yes, sco sucks, no doubt about it.
Sales go down, Linux goes up.
What they do? Boost their own innovation? Try to be better?
No, they try to kill competition (that will very likely kill them)
Lousy, lousy, lousy.
Looks like these unix patents are not worth much anymore that they have to go sue other better operating systems.
I guess this will be really simple and clear. The code is open!
And what if they win?
Well, then you adjust the whole thing, change names (don't know, I am an unix crack that has seen the system v source) from ls to lls (linux ls) or cp to lcp.
If you are far enough away, no lawsuit can harm you anymore.
And as is was in other areas, after some time, things become common good and cannot be protected by licenses anymore.
Remember? there was once a lawsuit about the copying of the windowing-desktop (windows and buttons, controllable by mouse, all that) and they ruled that it was too basic to be protected.
I mean, you cannot put a copyright on a street. anyone can build one, nothing to it.
But it seems SCO does not have much future by their own invetions and products that they have to play scavengers and try to eat off somebody elses plate.
They cant know how many people are using linux at the moment, its just too hard to get royalties from it. So I dont think this is about getting money from linux, but more of a way to scar linux in a corporate eye.
This is pretty silly, and I wouldnt doubt that M$ has something to do with it.
I can only hope that the right thing happens.
Also, how much code is supposedly copied? couldnt Linus Torvalds just go and change it to his own now hehe
You should hop over to slashdot. They have a paper on there from OSI regarding SCO's claims. I was ignorant of UNIX in highschool when I started tinkering in good ole basic. That was my introduction to computing. I had heard of unix as being the os running S.U. mainframe when my uncle was in college. But this paper was a real education on the history of the development of UNIX and it really punctuates how feable SCO's claims are. I really hope the magistrates get ahold of this info and bury SCO in their own history. From what I read (and I read nearly the entire paper, whooh) SCO contradicts back on itself quite a few times. And some of what they are claiming is just outright crap. But it was a real eye-openner to get the capsulized version of what happened to UNIX and how utterly rediculous this drivel is.
Personally I thought this was all just being blown out of proportion. That SCO was nothing more than a gnat buzzing around but after reading what a battle this was before and how this is so remeniscent of the Berkley case I can fully agree with the results like the boycott being harolded by PC Linux online and the shitstorm that's going to come down on SCO when this does go to court.
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i wonder how much if any res judicata matters here.
that means "it's already been judged or determined" in
lawyer speak. that old trial ruled that the at&t only had
rights in those 3 unix files. if they're claiming the
rights in sysVinit, that's been about the same in
redhat for almost a decade.
The only thing i can see sco having real rights in is the
code that they wrote themselves that doesn't have
anything to do with the original unix. since sco broke
off of the other bsd's, they would also have to show
that the code doesn't exist in the other bsd's either, or
it wouldn't be a trade secret, and they wouldn't have
exclusive rights to the code.
Anyway, under any legal principle, i don't see how any
end users could be held responsible, unless they
knew about it in the first place. The court would have
to rule that ibm stole code that belonged exclusively to
sco, and then damages would be forthcoming, to be
paid by who did the stealing. Since SCO hasn't told the
people using the code "what code" was stolen, we can't
remove it and replace it with something else until we
are told how it is in violation, any judge would give plenty
of time to license or replace the code in question. Since
we wouldn't license it, we would replace it, and it
wouldn't take long. Actually it would probably be done
well before any ruling actually took place. at most,
replacing this stuff would be an inconvenience.
Linux is all about all the gnu software, not really about the kernel. None of the other software would be affected, unless all the itanium code had to be removed from the kernel, and software compiled for the itanium 2 would no longer work.
i can possibly see linux distributions having to pay
for the code since they have profitied from it, but since
they are not guilty of knowing about it, there would be
no punitive damages paid. Let's say it's a thousand
lines of code. how many lines of code in an entire
linux distritution? I don't even want to guess. Then how
much profit did the distrib's make off of each they sold.
I don't know that either. $10?
Let's say 100,000,000 lines of code in a linux distro,
which made $10, so 1 millionth of that money should
go to sco, for distributions sold from 2000-2003, the
month where sco said there were violations. so if
100,000 copies of redhat were "SOLD" for $45 each,
with $10 net on that sale, then redhat is liable for $1.
I say redhat should offer to settle for 50 cents, if SCO
wins the ibm case, just to save court costs.
did you see on slashdot the link to an article stating that the court documents (evidence), from the law suit between sco and microsoft, were being shredded now. yurp. makes ya wonder.
they should have just kept the documents in Word format and just left the computer running over night. then in the morning try running winamp to crash the whole system. it would corrupt all the files and save time having to distroy paper work
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