s.m.a.r.t. disabled on all SATA drives, no matter what OS?

browny_amiga · 04-06-2007, 07:39 PM

Hi

I love checking my drives with smart long test to see how fit they are. Smartmontools used to work great, but now with the new SATA drives, they all don't support smart anymore, at least on Linux. From what I could learn, support for smart is a long long way away.

Does anybody know how it looks on Windows? Are there ANY tools that can read all smart data (temperature is must for me)?

From what I just gathered, it seems that the windows smart tools that existed also suffer from the same defect and fail to read all SATA drives.

macemoneta · 04-06-2007, 11:21 PM

"support for smart is a long long way away"

If by a long way away, you mean in the past, then it's true. Any system with kernel 2.6.15 or later and libata support works, according to the Linux SATA development team.

Crito · 04-07-2007, 12:01 AM

"-t short" to run quick self-test, then -d to specify controller type and view result. I think it incorrectly assumes SCSI because of sda device name... never had to use -d with my PATA drives.

Code:

[root@lode ~]# uname -r
2.6.20-1.2933.fc6
[root@lode ~]# smartctl --all -d ata /dev/sda
smartctl version 5.36 [x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-6 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model:     ST3400620AS
Serial Number:    *********
Firmware Version: 3.AAC
User Capacity:    400,088,457,216 bytes
Device is:        Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
ATA Version is:   7
ATA Standard is:  Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated
Local Time is:    Sat Apr  7 00:55:00 2007 EDT
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x82) Offline data collection activity
                                        was completed without error.
                                        Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status:      (   0) The previous self-test routine completed
                                        without error or no self-test has ever 
                                        been run.
Total time to complete Offline 
data collection:                 ( 430) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:                    (0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
                                        Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
                                        Suspend Offline collection upon new
                                        command.
                                        Offline surface scan supported.
                                        Self-test supported.
                                        No Conveyance Self-test supported.
                                        Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
                                        power-saving mode.
                                        Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01) Error logging supported.
                                        General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine 
recommended polling time:        (   1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time:        ( 132) minutes.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x000f   117   099   006    Pre-fail  Always       -       126002234
  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0003   094   093   000    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   020    Old_age   Always       -       88
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   036    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000f   059   051   030    Pre-fail  Always       -       42957503807
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   098   098   000    Old_age   Always       -       2442
 10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0013   100   100   097    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
 12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   020    Old_age   Always       -       104
187 Unknown_Attribute       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
189 Unknown_Attribute       0x003a   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
190 Unknown_Attribute       0x0022   056   049   045    Old_age   Always       -       756940844
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   044   051   000    Old_age   Always       -       44 (Lifetime Min/Max 0/24)
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x001a   068   060   000    Old_age   Always       -       206573567
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0010   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x003e   200   200   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
200 Multi_Zone_Error_Rate   0x0000   100   253   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
202 TA_Increase_Count       0x0032   100   253   000    Old_age   Always       -       0

SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Short offline       Completed without error       00%      2442         -

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
 SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1        0        0  Not_testing
    2        0        0  Not_testing
    3        0        0  Not_testing
    4        0        0  Not_testing
    5        0        0  Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
  After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

browny_amiga · 04-12-2007, 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macemoneta

"support for smart is a long long way away"

If by a long way away, you mean in the past, then it's true. Any system with kernel 2.6.15 or later and libata support works, according to the Linux SATA development team.

I just tried it, wow, great!!! I have now waited a long time for it, about 2 years, that why I was so cynic about it.
Constantly trying it and seeing it fail in many ways does not inspire so much.

You have to specify the -d ata parameter, without it does not work (and enable smart, since it is disabled by standard (??????)...

Thanks a lot for the pointer.

happy smart monitoring everyone!

Markus