By all means, join the fun.

(1) Linux doesn't cost; Windows does in both funds and, with its later versions, privacy.

(2) Linux is far more robust than Windows. You can lock up any Windows 95, Windows 98 or Windows ME computer simply by opening up MSDOS prompt, running debug and executing the following machine code instructions: CLI (disable interrupts) and HLT (halt). Linux will survive such a trick with flying colors. Windows 2000 and Windows XP will survive that trick but, then again, they have tons of other security holes... and I have seen Windows XP really get its paging file confused when its working drive is different than its boot drive.

The basics of the two command lines are not that different. The Windows command line is MSDOS, plain and simple. MSDOS, in turn, is a watered down (and quicker to understand) derivative of UNIX. UNIX, in turn, is the ancestor, and command line, for Linux. As for power, like Windows, the Linux GUI is beginning to take on and allow you to do things that you would previously do using the command line. Beyond the basics is where it all gets murky, including for me. I muddle through as best as I can.

First, let me say everyone is entitled to their opinion and I'm not slamming yours.
I disagree with your comment that Linux/Unix users want to keep it complicated to "protect" it and keep their skills in demand. All OS's are complex to a certain extent and the Linux community is not intentionally making Linux complicated for job security. Linux is from the Open Source world and therefore is developed by millions of different programmers contributing their work, for free. Windows is developed by a single company bent on one purpose and one purpose only: to make profits.

If you don't like Linux, don't use it. It is what it is. I don't like Windows, but I use it at work because I'm a Windows developer. In my opinion, Windows is the AOL of the OS world. Windows has it's place and so does Linux. For me, Windows is for playing games, and Linux is for doing everything else. Long live the penguin....



Paul

posted by icemncmth
why wandering... click search posts by qwijibow and read them, they are there if you want to read them !!!!
there is probably a word for poeple who have the evidence infron of them to make an accusation, but cant be bothered to read the evidence, just make the accusation anyway right ????? people like you annoy me.

so, go read all my posts, i think you will find most of my posts are helping other's making 380 whatever posts in 7 months or whatever making me a good member.

so... only 24 posts icemncmth ???
like you i dont think ill bother reading them, ill just assume they were all on this thread, arguing rather than helping people shall I.... and dont shout at me, im just using the same logic as you.... its quite an easy logic dont u think ???

and no, im not talking about wasting bandwidth, im talking about keeping the site organised, if there were only a few thread hits to the keywork nvidia, it would be much easyer to find your answer.

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anyway, i find myself becoming very bored with this argument, it started off as me saying, dont ask questions that have already been answered, and ended with posts like YOURS, which are nothing more than peosonal attacks, word twisting, and generally just people trying to case trouble
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How do we get this thread to the attention of a mod and get it closed ? i see many people are making enemies and it needs to be lcosed for the good of those who are looking for help, rather than a fight.
so hurry up and twist my words so you can entertain yourself a little more before i leave this utterly boreing place.

OHHHH,, and..... Please READ THE FOLLOWING QUOTES......

posed by some member.
posted by ME:
[quote[these are header files... from a devel package, possibly qa-devel-3.1 ???

goto google.com/linux, and search "privides qglabal.h"


or possibly rpmfind.net and search qglobal.h

have fun[/quote]

posted by member

OK,, the problem is not yet solved... BUT
instead of doing it for him, i told him how to solve package dependency's
he leanred a vital lesson in the world of linux, i was pollite when telling him,
no1 got upset, everyhting was fine.....

so, cummon, tell he how he was reealy deeply offended, and hurt inside, and wriggling on a hook, and how i was feelig sick pleasure from it and playing god (as anouther user told me i was)

anyway, goodbye.

Considering that Paul made it a thread "Make
Linux more like Windows" it was off topic from
the very start (together with a few other, similar
threads - quite trollish) - NO :} ...

Cheers,
Tink

That's sad mate. Covering ones laziness
by claiming the others need to be curteous
is appaling. When I went to Italy I bought
a dictionary and a book of common phrases
before-hand and was well prepared.

Look, repeating this doesn't make it any more true.
There's a pretty distinct line between a brutal RTFM
and a request to do your homework.

You wouldn't believe how much I think about the like.
And what about the courtesy of taking the first step and
preparing yourself, I mean, the person who comes to
this board is, so to speak, a visitor in a strangers house.
I think that popping in without even having read
the rules, or the sticky threads that live at the top of more
or less every single forum is impudent. And I don't think
that the fact that one knows didly squat excuses for the
lack of will to learn.

There he goes again. Trying to nail me
down to the image of a simply abusive
hot-head is not going to work, and repeating
it four times in one post to me only shows
that you're running out of real reason.

There he goes again... I'm not disrespecting
people, I'm disrespecting an attitude.

How many people do you think actually do read
the rules when they sign up? How many read the
first center paragraph

I think that Jeremy was being rather curteous there,
unfortunately, because a polite person would feel
obliged to actually follow the advice to "feel free
to browse the board, perform a search" (which
actually are links). The vast majority seems to
ignore this, and this is rightfully pissing me of.
In Linux-Newbie there's a "sticky thread" on nVidia
problems, none the less there's several new
nVidia threads every day. And you keep
telling me I'm rude? Get a life, mate, and open
your eyes to what's happening.

And does public mean that every single
person is meant to say the same thing?
Think of the "search" and the "sticky threads"
as of sign-posts with information on an
Airport. How well, do you think, the staff
at the airport would cope if no one read
the present information but rather queue
up, ask questions and become rather grumpy
because it's taking time to get an answer
or because they become afraid to run out
of time?

Use the search,, young Jedi.


Cheers,
Tink

<<< Cheers,
Tink >>>

Might be time to consider the possibility, however remote, that we may be getting a little over exercised to no really good purpose. I am going to take a chill pill and move on.

No, he hasn't. He didn't start a few new threads
for that, but rather kept this "wooly mammoth"
going which makes a big difference.

I don't think that the bandwidth is that much
of an issue, btw, but the clutter on the boards
sure is. The sad thing is, the more poeple
start a new thread with similar topics, the less
usable the search feature is becoming because
people easily feel overwhelmed by 1600 hits
to their search.

Cheers,
Tink

Ummm ... a post isn't necessarily a question,
but may as well be a helpful response?

You're getting the idea? :)

Cheers,
Tink

<<< The vast majority seems to
ignore this, and this is rightfully pissing me of. >>>

When all of the world is out of step with what you know to be right and correct, it may be time to take a deep breath, open your hands, and just...let it go.

It's not all of the world mate, just users who
come here ;) ... and if all of the world went
the wrong way I'd still be stubborn and stick
to my idea of what's right and what's wrong
until someone can prove me to be wrong.


What happened to this? :)


Cheers,
Tink

<<< and if all of the world went
the wrong way I'd still be stubborn and stick
to my idea >>>

Absolute, final post to this thread. Go Don Quixote, go Don Quixote, go Don Quixote.

/me grabs Rozinante's reins, jumps in the saddle and rides towards the setting sun...


Cheers,
Tink

There are people listening to folks like yourself and they're working on solutions to help you enter linux more easily.

If you are adventurous you may want to try a rather young project, a distribution called Ark Linux which is targeted at linux newcommers with no previous experience with linux.

BE WARNED THOUGH, this distribution is still in alpha stage, which means that it's in development and it's not intended for end users, so installation problems etc. do happen on some occasions, Still many find it very stable even for an alpha release and use it on a daily basis.

here's the URL : www.arklinux.org

have fun

bigozs,

Now would be an excellent time to make sure that the documentation for ArkLinux stays in step with the software as it develops, and to whip it into shape if need be. Do you happen to be in communication with those who are developing ArkLinux?