innie... both-handed(nowadays i type a lot more than i write) ... perfect eyesight... red-green color blind... and never tried a pickup line since i'm too shy. in any case, a pick up line would probably just get me to the 2nd storey, nothing more... if u didn't get that, it's probably why my pick up lines don't work...

Its all about the confidence, gui10. Just going up and talking to a girl will get her attention in many cases. There is never a need to be shy. The most she will do is shunt you. And there are plenty more fish in the sea.

I'm very honoured to be one of the few "females" here. Allthough I'm still a newbie (but hey, everybody has to start somewhere, right?).

About the dating and pick-up line thing...
I find that Dutch guys in general (I'm a dutch girl ) haven't got the nerves to aproach any girl, except that is in a club when they are to drunk to be interesting at all. So the only pick-up lines I've heard so far were either in English, French or Spanish. In other words when I was abroad. Good thing about that: In a foreign tongue everything sounds good!
This ofcourse poses a problem for us Dutch girls in our own country when faced with the desire to have a relationship, boyfriend, one night stand or whatever.
You wouldn't believe how many friends of mine who really aren't that bad looking turned to the web to get a date!
I for one would really like to get some of that North American dating culture over here.

Anne

Hey! Nevermind that...come over to England.

For work that is.
Wed next week to Birmingham, but just for a day I'm afraid, one meeting and I'm back to Holland again, so I'm guessing I won't be hearing any good pick-up lines on that day.
But anyways: thanks for the invitation!

that sure does sound vulgar... (kidding... i thought the word was shun? though shunt does sound a tad bit more interesting, abuse or not! )
geez, I share your sentiments woman!
hey thymox, could u toss over a few english babes over here then? since shadowhacker said not to be too bashful about things...

That is kinda funny. Annehoog wants some of that North American dating culture back home, and I want some of that European culture (and men back here.

Amazing how we always want the opposite of what we have.

Back to the dating thing. Anne is right about guys not being very interesting when drunk. Girls like guys that can approach them without the need for inhibition altering suppliments.

A few drinks are fine, but if you get plastered and go up to a girl, normally they think you want a one-night stand. Of course, there are woman out there that do too, so you have a shot at simply getting laid that way if you want.

The whole dating game / scene is strange and somewhat dumb, but it does make for an interesting life. But I am glad I am not a guy... you guys have to work hard to impress us. All we have to do is dress like a hot knockout and we get attention.

Oh sure, and the streets are paved with gold and there's land for everyone. Please don't buy into the bad PR. Then again, maybe I'm just jaded but the North American dating culture here reminds me a lot of trench warfar in WWI. Then again, maybe I'm a bigger jaded fool and I'm just missing out on something in Canada. I guess you have to have something to do on those long cold nights. No intent to offend, but the grass is always green and all those cliches.

Cheers,

Finegan

wow finegan, you sure sound disillusioned...

say, i checked out your website the other day... are u buddhist? and why do you have the chinese character for life(ming) hung on your wall? (asking out of curiosity)...

and on a lighter note, i think depending on your vantage point, the bad PR is right, finegan... but i guess there's no such thing as "bad PR"... (won't be called PR if it's bad... )

Are you sure?
If you want to pay for you own dinner: get a dutch guy
if you want to date a guy shorter than you pick anything south of Belgium
if you want a real sleesball, go italian
if you want one that has such a funny accent you can't avoid laughing (such a killer of romance) get a belgium
If you are in to real pale and red-haired guys go to England or Ireland
Etc....
(for all those who feel offended: sorry guys I'm just preading around some stereotypes, I'm not saying al Italians are sleesy for instance)
Sorry girls, no such thing as the European male.

That is very, very true. Really it's very easy for us to get attention if you want it.
Not sure wether that is the kind of attention I want (at least not always)


You're quite right. I have a very good friend in the states and she really made a point about the US not being as Hollywood depicts it. (she really hated the fact that we watch Jerry Springer here)
And yes the grass does seem greener on the other side, but is doesn't always only seem that way.
In Mexico I was hot. Picture this: mexico-city, me the only foreigner with some Mexican friends. I'm 1.80 meters and blonde by the way. Yep, I got attention alright and I didn't even have to dress hot!
Oops, this mail got a little bit long I'm afraid
Groetjes
Anne

if anyone says anything more about green grass, i'm going to ask jeremy to start a forum for COWS...

and i don't mean tucows...

Understatement of the week. I agree with Anne's previous assesment though, there's nothing quite like being the exotic one; although the only experience of that I've had recently was being the one westerner in a group of mostly asian women. I did begin to feel really tall.

The character thing was a postcard. I was running out of image ideas and I had just gotten the scanner to work under Linux. Buddhist, taoist, unitarian, if its an -ist, -ism, or -ian I've probably subscribed to it at one time or another. I guess that makes me a tourist in the end.

Also, I had originally used the word "hype" instead of "PR", but the tone of that post was getting far to acidic for even me to deal with so I tried to tone it down. I could go into a long dissertation on why I think Anne's got it best in Holland, or Kewp in England, but they're really just more ill-inspired Hollywood or BBC films glamorizations I've bought into. Basically I just need to stamp a passport and find out on my own.

Cheers,

Finegan

Sorry annehoog and shadowhacker, but being a guy is way better than being a chick.

First off, you can fart or burp and you get some laughs, where girls get wierd looks.

second, picking up chicks is easy so long as you dont use crappy lines, are confident and interesting. An Australian accent helps too. (just ask my wife!!) Actually picking up guys is easy too, you only need ask

third you can stagger home alone, drunk as a skunk, with no fear of sleazy chicks trying to pick you up. (the beer compass comes into play here ie. the ability to find your way home even though you dont remember getting there when you wake up in bed the next day)

But the principle reasons are... Guys dont have periods and guys dont get knocked up!