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Old 10-25-2017, 10:50 AM   #1
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Letting Amazon have the key to your place - Amazon Key


https://www.amazon.com/b?&node=17285...1F2TDXCEZNYY8J

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Not at home? Not a problem.

As a Prime member, get your Amazon packages securely delivered just inside your front door. Plus, grant access to the people you trust, like your family, friends, dog walker, or house cleaner – no more leaving a key under the mat.
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Can I receive in-home delivery if I live in an apartment complex or have a front gate?

Yes, as long as the delivery driver can access and enter your front door.
But at least they do it for free

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Get the In-Home Kit installed for free

Get the Amazon Key In-Home Kit installed by a professional or do it yourself. Select at checkout. Learn more
 
Old 10-25-2017, 11:14 AM   #2
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I think I'd rather go to the depot instead! Bugger trusting someone you don't know with your front door key, sorry.
 
Old 10-25-2017, 11:59 AM   #3
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how convenient!
it also gives them knowledge about the people you trust and when tehy enter your house...
no wonder they install it for free.

next step: give amazon the credentials to your bank account, you won't even have to pay anymore!

not sure if i should feel sorry for the schmucks who actually choose that option...
 
Old 10-25-2017, 12:33 PM   #4
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One day, we will laugh a very bitter laugh at how catastrophically foolish we all were, "simply allowing" the Internet and cool-looking electronic toys to persuade us to throw away all of our privacy, autonomy and self-protection. George Orwell was only off by twenty years, but even he could not anticipate just how his story would be told in real life.
 
Old 10-25-2017, 08:20 PM   #5
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sundialsvcs is correct. This is intrusiveness masquerading as a service.
 
Old 10-25-2017, 08:34 PM   #6
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So, if I give the key to my dog instead, all they have to do is convince the mutt to hand it over. They'll even get an escort all the way to the door ...

Idiots.
 
Old 10-26-2017, 08:02 AM   #7
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I hope that your dog will know the proper thing to do with this idea.
 
Old 10-26-2017, 03:04 PM   #8
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Right before the driver arrives at your door, you will receive an “Arriving Now” notification and you can optionally watch the delivery happening live.
How nice. And of course the Amazon driver will be a happy, relaxed, good looking young woman...

My week as an Amazon insider
A day in the life of an Amazon delivery driver
Amazon drivers 'work illegal hours'

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A few drivers admitted to peeing in a bottle in their van because they didn't have time to find a toilet. Another admitted having defecated in the back of the van on one occasion.

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Old 10-26-2017, 03:25 PM   #9
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Poor little Amazon is just trying to catch up to Google (&Equifax etc),
in having collected ALL your 'personal' info.

If&when Google implements this for their deliveries,
then every BlackHatHacker on planet Earth
will turn their efforts to quickly&successfully releasing all the most damaging info
(what little that hasn't been 'compromised' already!!!)

This gives a new spin to the saying: "reached the end of the Internet"
The Internet has nearly completed, making the whole concepts of 'locks', worthless.
 
Old 10-26-2017, 03:29 PM   #10
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The installation is free - the service and equipment, though, is not. It's rather expensive.

I have this vague idea for a more acceptable alternative service, though. The idea is to deliver to your car trunk rather than your home address. You leave your car unlocked and the delivery person manually locks the car after delivery using the front door's manual lock. You need some way to serve up your car's GPS location, of course, along with logging of each time someone requests your car's location.
 
Old 10-28-2017, 12:51 PM   #11
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Saw the ad, not for me. Not giving someone access to my castle, much less putting the ability to unlock it on the Internet. If it is visible on the Internet, it is hackable.
 
Old 10-28-2017, 08:57 PM   #12
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I thought this article made some good points:

http://www.seattlepi.com/opinion/art...t-12308951.php

The author suggests that

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The thought processes of Silicon Valley innovators are a curious thing. Many observers have noted that the most common proposals seem to fall into the category of “things that I, a 25-year-old man, wish that I could still get my mother to do for me.”
Follow the link for her reasoning.
 
Old 10-29-2017, 03:56 AM   #13
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^ nice article!
my addition: in the end it comes down to money.
when any of the services mentioned by the author become even slightly cheaper than the current default, they will become the new default.
also: i fondly remember juicero, the biggest IoT clusterfogg i had the pleasure to witness!


also:
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Originally Posted by sevendogsbsd View Post
If it is visible on the Internet, it is hackable.
this.
 
Old 10-29-2017, 01:01 PM   #14
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Wondering if a data base is being collected on all the posters here who leave their packages outside on their front door step while at work?

I have a sign telling shipping packages can be thrown over the fence so my dogs that are trying to attack the shipper can chew on them < the package >. Actually. I have them trained to leave thrown items over the fence alone. Keeps them from getting poisoned.

Needless to say. My dogs will chew on Amazon shippers also.
 
Old 10-29-2017, 09:40 PM   #15
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The start-ups that have puzzled me most lately have been the "we will ship you dinner" outfits, like this one. Fortunately, they seem to be crashing and burning.

I remember back in the dot-com boom in the 90s, persons were talking about refrigerators that will order food for you. It didn't catch on then and I don't think it's going to catch on now.

It illustrates something I have maintained for quite some time: "Because you can" is not in and of itself a sufficient reason to do something, unless, of course, you are a 15-year-old boy. Too many "entrepreneurs" think like 15-year-old boys. (And, as #metoo shows, act like them too.)

Unfortunately (look at the Internet of Thin--er--Targets), too many outfits are enabling network connectivity in inanimate objects because they can, not because enabling network connectivity serves a sane or useful purpose.
 
  


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