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Old 04-02-2024, 02:31 PM   #16
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Hopefully someone will come along and answer you on the video/driver question. Video/Driver is right at the very bottom of what I use RPIs for. As I stated most all of mine run headless.
 
Old 04-03-2024, 05:45 AM   #17
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When the Pi 4 came out, they boasted 1080p on 2 monitors@60Hz, or 4K on 1 monitor @60Hz. That was about double what any OS except RPi OS was able to deliver, and Debian Bulleye was a bitch on those things.

I use mine as a media box to circumvent the AWFUL interface on my tv.
 
Old 04-04-2024, 10:37 PM   #18
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Speaking of storage. I just got a geekworm pcie board for an RPI5. Installed just fine. I tried a spare 1TB WD Blue NVME board first and the RPI5 would not boot with it in place. I had an unused 250GB NVME board laying around, and that board allowed the computer to boot. Note I am not booting from NVME as I have a USB 500GB T7 SDD for that. Some research found that that interface only supports 5 Watts, so I am sure that was the problem. Therefore the PCIe interface is pretty useless for large power hungry NVME SSD drives if that is what one is planning . Another gotcha is you have to 'enable' the PCIe interface in the boot/firmware/config.txt file before the system will see it. I checked raspi-config expecting a setting, but not to be found in that application (just an FYI). Anyway, off and running!

Tried to upload a quick picture, but says security token is missing or some such... Strange, worked before. Oh well.
{edited} Still doesn't work as of 04/08/24

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Old Yesterday, 01:34 AM   #19
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When the Pi 4 came out, they boasted 1080p on 2 monitors@60Hz, or 4K on 1 monitor @60Hz. That was about double what any OS except RPi OS was able to deliver, and Debian Bulleye was a bitch on those things.

I use mine as a media box to circumvent the AWFUL interface on my tv.
Btw, do you use wayland or xorg on rpi4?

wayland is quite slow.
 
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Btw, do you use wayland or xorg on rpi4?

wayland is quite slow.
I have the last disk Image of slarm64 atm, dated 09/2023 w/kernel-6.5.2 & XFCE. sndwvs has moved over to irradium, a crux variant. I made an sdcard, and it's very slackware-like. That's also on the Slarm64 forum. The last rpi-4 image is 3.7, dated March 2024.

I use 720p/1080p stuff, and it's fine for my needs. I can torrent, download or stream stuff. Zoom under box64 is a bit much for it, so I haven't bothered with the requisite webcam & mic. I see no reason to update it, although I believe the RazPi 5 is significantly better, and the Orange Pi 5 better again. Slackware has Wayland for kde, and Xorg for XFCE. I'm on Xorg/XFCE, and probably won't update that unless something goes south. Why bother?

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I'm not an RPi user (my NAS is Pine64) but since the question is about powering drives this might help someone. I built my NAS in an old 2 Bay drive enclosure with an actual PSU, not a "wall wart". I don't think the brand I bought is still available but I imagine there are units like it around for sale. I rearranged everything and added a larger fan but it now houses the Pine64 a 4 port SATA PCIe card and 4 drives - 3 Spinners and 1 SSD.

This is a poor photo to display the PSU but it should give some DIY enthusiasts some option ideas.

https://i.imgur.com/XLj30tP.jpg
 
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I'm not an RPi user (my NAS is Pine64) but since the question is about powering drives this might help someone. I built my NAS in an old 2 Bay drive enclosure with an actual PSU, not a "wall wart". I don't think the brand I bought is still available but I imagine there are units like it around for sale. I rearranged everything and added a larger fan but it now houses the Pine64 a 4 port SATA PCIe card and 4 drives - 3 Spinners and 1 SSD.

This is a poor photo to display the PSU but it should give some DIY enthusiasts some option ideas.

https://i.imgur.com/XLj30tP.jpg
You're up a size or 3 on us. My RazPi 4 lives in One of These.

It's approximately 3"x2"x1". My 2.5" SSD hangs out of a usb3 port, and a little keyboard/mouse dongle out of a slower usb, with two spare. My psu is not the wall wart type, but a little switched mode in-line block giving 5.1V from 110V-240V. And there's no fan, because the metal box handles cooling. If I need more cooling, I tun the metal up & paint it matt black, to up the thermal conductivity.
 
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FYI, RPI-5 (PI OS 64) Update...

My 1TB WD Blue M.2 SSD 'DOES' work. Turns out I had to update to the latest EEPROM firmware on the RPI-5 to support the SDD controller. I am currently booting off the 1TB SSD which is cool! So will have two USB 3.0 ports handy for 'storage' or other usage as needed now. Anyway, thought I'd share.

Here is my Lego Like 'Tower' with RPI-5 installed, when I was booting off the USB 3.0 T7 SSD, and the 250GB M.2 PCIe board in place while testing.
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On my pi400 I use a powered usb hub. I have a 500GB SSD, a 1Tb SSD, and a 256GB flash drive plugged into it. Along with a 256GB SDcard.
The 1 TB SSD is my OS.

Still waiting for a pi500 to come out.
 
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On my pi400 I use a powered usb hub.
Yep with a powered hub, you have lots of options at the point. My problem with it is I then needed two power cords for the system. At least with the RPI-5 you have better power options for your USB devices to keep it all in a small area without two power plugs. Other problem I experienced with the RPI4s is the USB shared usage problem which the RPI5 does completely away with. Caused real slowdowns when transferring data on the RPI4. I bought a RPI400 when they first come out, but didn't catch on here, so just sits in a case unused. Always meant to use the guts in a project as all the 'connectors' are on one side... Hasn't happened yet! Might buy a RPI500 ... when and if they come out ... just because .
 
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You're up a size or 3 on us. My RazPi 4 lives in One of These.

It's approximately 3"x2"x1". My 2.5" SSD hangs out of a usb3 port, and a little keyboard/mouse dongle out of a slower usb, with two spare. My psu is not the wall wart type, but a little switched mode in-line block giving 5.1V from 110V-240V. And there's no fan, because the metal box handles cooling. If I need more cooling, I tun the metal up & paint it matt black, to up the thermal conductivity.
True (and your is quite cool as in compact and handsome as well as thermally) but once you add 4 hard drives and put a PSU capable of powering all that in one enclosure I suspect the size gets very similar. Of course though I am aware that I am overly fanatical about cooling but nevertheless the enclosure in the photo isn't huge. It's just 7" x 7" x 10.5"
 
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Yep, that's a small enough block, although too big imho. It's also an engineer's approach. Mine is either side of a tv with a remote keyboard/mouse. Positioning is important, because of my handicap.

Mine actually is over-cooled. It doesn't overheat @ a solid 1.8GHz. But it so rarely does 1.8GHz. The SoC appears to have a simple '4 gear' thermal control. It has frequencies of: 550MHz; 1200MHz; 1500MHz; 1800Mhz. It's rarely called on for sprints, mainly compiles.

To put it mildly, Ireland is cool. We are only due to get our noses into the warm air this weekend. The highest ever temperature recorded is 31.5C. Our temperature is struggling to get out of single figures each day. There has been an incessant train of low pressure rainstorms coming in from the Atlantic all year. I said before Ireland was the urinal for Europe. It's a disastrous year for agriculture. Tillage growers can't plant. Garden centres have no customers. Dairy/meat farmers can't let cows out in fields of mud. So they're held indoors, while tractors mow grass, which is fed to the cattle. There's been no massive storm, but rivers & lakes are at unprecedented levels upstream. Everyone is still in winter clothing.
 
  


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