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Old 03-05-2004, 08:28 AM   #1
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More SCO bad news....

Computer Associates, others sign SCO licenses
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"The SCO Group confirmed Thursday that three more companies--Computer Associates, Leggett & Platt, and Questar--have purchased licenses for its intellectual property, allowing them to run Linux without fear of SCO legal action."

But, it also says:

"The SCOsource effort hasn't been terribly lucrative recently, bringing in $20,000 in revenue in its most recent quarter, compared with costs of $3.4 million in the quarter--due in part to lawsuits involving IBM, Novell, Red Hat, AutoZone and DaimlerChrysler. But SCO expects revenue from SCOsource to increase."
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Maybe not so bad afterall?

Old 03-05-2004, 09:12 AM   #3
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i wonder if SCO will get used for trying to be a monoply in the unix world, sue everyone remotly related to any unix but theres must be ilegal!
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With the amount of crack Darl and co's been smoking, who knows? :P
Old 03-05-2004, 10:33 AM   #5
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yeah...sounds like CA and Leggett and Pratt are denying the SCO licensing.

In both cases it does sound like a serious misrepresentation *cough*LIE*cough* by SCO.
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CA Says It Didn’t Pay SCO No Stinking Linux Tax

CA Says It Didn’t Pay SCO No Stinking Linux Tax

Article to appear in LinuxGram by Maureen O’Gara, Editor in Chief of LinuxGram

The Linux faithful have been hammering Computer Associates as a heretic since the British publication Computer Weekly quoting the SCO Group’s CFO Bob Bench identified CA Thursday as one of SCO’s rare Linux licensees.

CA senior VP of product development Mark Barrenechea says that Bench’s claim is nonsense. CA has not paid SCO any Linux taxes, he said.

Drawing up short of calling SCO a liar, Barrenechea claims that SCO has twisted a $40 million breach-of-contract settlement that CA paid last summer to the Canopy Group, SCO’s biggest stockholder, and Center 7, another Canopy company, and has turned it into a purported Linux license.

As a “small part” of that settlement, Barrenechea said, CA got a bunch of UnixWare licenses that it needed to support its UnixWare customers. SCO, he said, had just attached a transparent Linux indemnification to all UnixWare licenses and that is how SCO comes off calling CA a Linux licensee.

But when CA agreed to that settlement, Barrenechea said, “It was not CA’s intention to become a Linux licensee. It has nothing to do with CA’s product direction or strategic direction,” he said.

CA has absolutely no sympathy for what SCO is doing, Barrenechea said, and in fact, he said, reading from a formal statement, it stands in “stark disagreement with SCO’s tactics and threats.”

Barrenechea and CA’s Linux chief Sam Greenblatt are worried that CA will be tarred with the SCO brush and that CA’s considerable Linux ambitions will be damaged by a disaffected, if not hostile, open source community when in reality CA has “nothing to do with SCO’s strategy and tactics,” they said.

CA was the mystery company SCO was thinking of when it announced last August that an unidentified Fortune 500 company had supposedly become a Linux license. SCO privately described the deal as “significant.”

CA couldn’t disassociate itself from the rumors that identified it as that licensee because of an NDA that the Canopy side had insisted on hedging in the $40 million settlement with, Barrenechea and Greenblatt said.

Barrenechea said that SCO now regards that NDA as being off because of the legal discovery that’s been going on in SCO’s $5 billion suit against IBM.

See, SCO lawyer Mark Heisse in a letter dated February 4 to IBM lawyer David Marriott at Cravath Swain identified CA, Questar and Leggett & Platt as Linux taxpayers.

According to that letter, which is up on the Groklaw site, Heisse owed IBM a copy of the CA agreement on CD.

Barrenechea said that SCO was dropping CA’s name to associate itself with the “third-largest software company in the world” and build support for its “lost cause.”

But according to Barrenechea, not only are SCO’s IP ambitions doomed, but its Unix interests are a “trailing negative” on the road to dropping from 10% of the market to 3%-5% in a few years and then “SCO will be irrelevant,” he said.

By the way, CA doesn’t have enough UnixWare licenses to cover all its Linux servers, Greenblatt said.

In answer to CA’s contentions, SCO said its lawyers think that CA has a Linux license.

Meanwhile, Bench also told Computer Weekly, whose story was picked up by sister paper InfoWorld and maybe other properties in the IDG stable, that SCO had signed between 10 and 50 Linux licenses.

Posted by dims at March 4, 2004 06:35 PM

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Rep: Reputation: 34 Two of four SCO licensees deny their purchase

Two of four SCO licensees deny their purchase
Linux licence? What Linux licence?

By Robert McMillan, IDG News Service and Kieren McCarthy, Techworld

Two of the four companies that SCO has publicly named as having bought a licence from it to use Linux, have denied doing anything of the sort.

Both Computer Associates and Leggett & Platt have been held up by SCO as purchasing a $699 (£384) licence to cover the alleged SCO copyrights in the open-source operating system. But both have publicly stated that they have done no such thing.

The chief architect of CA's Linux Technology Group, Sam Greenblatt, admitted the company had struck a deal with an investor in SCO over UnixWare licences and said that for each UnixWare licence bought, it was indemnified against a Linux box but he denied outright that the company had bought a licence specifically dealing with Linux.

Leggett & Platt was even clearer. "I have now talked to our people who handle our Linux systems and, at least at a corporate level, we have not bought such a licence from SCO Group," said the company's VP of human resources, John Hale. "To their knowledge they would not have an interest in doing so."

The denials come the same day that SCO was forced to admit an email appearing to demonstrate that Microsoft had helped fund the group to the tune of $86 million was real. But, the company claims, the email does not show what people claim it

This same misunderstanding approach was used by SCO to explain CA's statement. SCO spokesman Blake Stowell said that CA had indeed obtained an IP licence for Linux in an email. “UnixWare licences allow SCO customers to run UnixWare and the SCO Intellectual Property Licence allows Linux end users to run our Unix intellectual property in binary form in Linux. Today, CA has a licence in place to run our Unix IP in binary form in Linux without fear that they may be infringing on our intellectual property."

This hazy distinction angered CA's Greenblatt, who strongly objected to the portrayal of CA as a IP licensee for Linux. "To represent us as having supported the SCO thing is totally wrong," he said, before accusing the company's tactics as "intended to intimidate and threaten customers". "We totally disagree with [Darl McBride's, SCO CEO] approach, his tactics and the way he's going about this," Greenblatt added.

SCO claims to have copyrighted material within the Linux open-source operating system and has embarked on a dramatic legal battle to enforce them. Earlier this week, it expanded its lawsuits to include one of its own customers and a company using the Linux software and warned that it "will take and continue to take" legal action against Linux end users. The company sees itself as educating people about its rights in the same way that the RIAA - the US music industry body - has sued individuals in an attempt to prevent the free trade in copyrighted music.

However, one financial analyst said that the conditions surrounding the CA licence did not cast a favorable light on SCO. "I think it just speaks to the weakness of their case. Why could CA have not been convinced to take a licence without legal action," said Dion Cornett, managing director with Decatur Jones Equity Partners.

The other two companies that have been named as IP Licence for Linux customers are EV1 Servers.Net and Salt Questar. Both have confirmed that they did purchase SCO's licence.

TechWorld article...
Old 03-05-2004, 11:29 AM   #8
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I merged these SCO threads as we don't need a new one each time there is new info on the SCO case.

Old 03-05-2004, 05:04 PM   #9
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SCO FUD and spin is taking a new low. They create a Linux license, merge it into their product license and then when someone who has to support end users on their old product buys a license, they call it buying the Linux license...

Between that and the leaked Halloween X e-mail (which is now CONFIRMED to be genuine, although disputed in terms of context), this is getting sadder and sadder for SCO.
Old 03-05-2004, 09:15 PM   #10
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I was just heading over here to post a link to dims post. Glad to see someone beat me to the punch. One day this will make an interesting movie.
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I was just heading over here to post a link to dims post. Glad to see someone beat me to the punch. One day this will make an interesting movie.
I was just telling my friend that about the movie -- I can't wait to see it!


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