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Tens of millions of those voters are Christian conservatives such as myself whose only choice will be Trump or the present administration's "woke", anti-Christian values.
The choice is actually democracy or dictatorship.
Don't fall for the sensationalist ideological nonsense.
Don't fall for the sensationalist ideological nonsense.
I don't know what powers you guys give your branches of government down there but here Trump will have no more or less power than does Biden. We have checks and balances regardless of histrionic campaign speech.
Our system of government isn't the one being discussed here. But since you raised it, yes it is also based on checks and balances at every level, essentially the same as the American system. We use the British position titles, but the roles are the same.
Our courts aren't politicised though... at least not as much as yours. Our high court Justices are appointed on merit rather than political affiliation.
I don't know what powers you guys give your branches of government down there but here Trump will have no more or less power than does Biden. We have checks and balances regardless of histrionic campaign speech.
Have you bought yourself a set of Donny's fabulous gold sneakers yet? All yours for only $400.
Proceeds go toward the $400m fine he has to pay for stealing.
Our system of government isn't the one being discussed here. ...
That's the pot calling the kettle black. You've weighed in on MY Countries Presidential candidates that you can't even vote for, invoked Reagan, Nixon and Obama's names, claimed that we Americans had lost Bill of Rights protections, made observations about the Patriot Act, posted a re-canted and discredited 'quote' with profanity, falsly attributed to Bush, and talked about 'sneakers.' Anything but a Special Prosecutor's report from a man appointed by the Biden administration. My sneakers by the way rarely cost more that $35, so no, I won't be buying 'gold' colored foot wear.
Not my "glorious leader", if I had the choice of another candidate who stood a chance of beating a senile, old man (Biden) whose has flip-flopped on most majority Christian values he ever had for political expediency, I would vote for he/she over Trump. There just isn't one.
Right. So to continue your argument then Trump better embodies the majority of most Christian values? Cheating on his wife with a porn star and a playboy bunny. Paying hush money to the porn star. Raping a woman in a department store. Defrauding the great state of New York for decades. Attempting to impede the transfer of power during the 2020 election. Stealing and refusing to return classified documents until raided by the FBI.
Those are examples of Christian values?! Trump is a better Christian than Biden?!
If you truly believe that then I am gobsmacked.
Trump is a perverted, criminal lunatic.
Yes, well, unlike some, I've patently studied history.
No shoes eh? What about his GoFundMe? So far it's at $220k of the $335m target...
Again, proceeds go towards his $400m fine for stealing.
Now you are just playing "Groundhog's Day." Do you have anything to say about the report - have you even read any of it other than the many excerpts I've quoted here?
Right. So to continue your argument then Trump better embodies the majority of most Christian values? ...
Not what I said at all. Did you miss this post?
"Exactly. I believe I put in another post that, for me, both Biden and Trump are bad choices but, again for me, Trump is the less odiferous of the two. Electing Trump again might return governance of this Country to a more conservative path in addition to the possibility of another conservative Justice should Thomas retire." https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ml#post6483322
My views are those of the majority of Christian conservatives and should be self-evident.
No, they are not. Most Christian Conservatives, like most other Christians, follow the actual teachings of Jesus as recorded in the translated books of the new testament (NOT the King James atrocity). The cult calling themselves "Evangelical" Christians do not follow the teachings of Christ from ANY version of the bible, and believe the most unchristian things that go directly against the teachings!
All of which is beside the important point. Joe Biden appears to be a true and good Christian, a faithful and practicing member of the Catholic church. That should have NOTHING to do with government or politics: the separation between government and politics is key and central to our constitutional democracy.
The opinions of a legal professional about the law have some validity, but the opinions of a legal professional on medical matters has no validity at all. (Just as a Medical professional expressing an opinion on law has no validity. You only get respect for your area of expertise.) On legal investigative reports under Main Justice medical matters are only discussed in the context of the testimony or advice of a medical professional with direct experience of the subject and under conditions where medical confidentiality does not apply or has been waived. Except this time. This report comes under fire, as does the author, from conservatives, liberals, and all corners of the legal profession because it is flawed and unprofessional in those areas discussing medical matters WITHOUT consultation with medical professionals. No legal professional has questioned the legal points and conclusion, but the non-legal comments violate standards and justify these reactions.
The legal conclusion stands, Biden did NOT '..."willfully" commit Federal Crimes...', or if he did there is no evidence or report to support that conclusion.
I don't know what powers you guys give your branches of government down there but here Trump will have no more or less power than does Biden. We have checks and balances regardless of histrionic campaign speech.
#1 it is unproven that our checks and balances can continue to protect against a threat that has already corrupted half of the legislative branch and 5 parts in 9 of the judicial.
#2 IN posts, texts, speeches, and comments in interviews Trump and his allies have sketched an agenda that would corrupt the administrative branch and purge it of honest patriotic supporters of the Constitution and replace them with Trump loyalists. If that were accomplished, then there would not be enough structural checks to prevent conversion to a total fascist state.
Given the examples of MAGA desire to make Trump a Dictator, and his stated willingness to violate the constitution to accomplish that goal, I see no reason to take the risk.
Even if Trump dropped out of the race (or was legally removed from the ballots) voting for anyone from that party, which has attacked our constitutional personal freedoms and attempted to invalidate matters of settled law, seems insane. Voting for a conservative that supports the Trump agenda is a vote to attack those checks and balances and the rule of law!
The Democrats are bad enough, but at least they follow the rules and support the checks and balances established in the constitution and long standing SCOTUS decisions. The other guys want to burn down the house: and us in it!
No, they are not. Most Christian Conservatives, like most other Christians, follow the actual teachings of Jesus as recorded in the translated books of the new testament (NOT the King James atrocity). The cult calling themselves "Evangelical" Christians do not follow the teachings of Christ from ANY version of the bible, and believe the most unchristian things that go directly against the teachings!
That's your opinion and not one shared by 10s of millions of Christians that voted for a Trump second term.
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All of which is beside the important point. ...
Yes it is. This is 'General' but many of the posters to this thread want to opine about anything but the SP's report.
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The opinions of a legal professional about the law have some validity, but the opinions of a legal professional on medical matters has no validity at all. ...
Then you should have no problem with the House request to get all of the Special Prosecutor's evidence so perhaps we can hear Biden's taped responses?
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...No legal professional has questioned the legal points and conclusion, but the non-legal comments violate standards and justify these reactions.
The legal conclusion stands, Biden did NOT '..."willfully" commit Federal Crimes...', or if he did there is no evidence or report to support that conclusion.
I've posted direct quotes from the report several times that say there is evidence but that the President's infirmities would probably lead a sympathetic jury pool to overlook any legal transgressions. You may not like that but it's just the truth.
I have concluded that it is impossible to penetrate the alternate universe where the MAGA horde resides. Logic does not work with that crowd. I strongly urge all Americans of sound mind to mobilize and help to get out the vote. Encourage your 18 year olds to register to vote.
Democracy is at a tipping point in America.
The Barbarians are at the gate.
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No, they are not. Most Christian Conservatives, like most other Christians, follow the actual teachings of Jesus as recorded in the translated books of the new testament (NOT the King James atrocity). The cult calling themselves "Evangelical" Christians do not follow the teachings of Christ from ANY version of the bible, and believe the most unchristian things that go directly against the teachings!
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That's your opinion and not one shared by 10s of millions of Christians that voted for a Trump second term.
Actually you can document the teachings of Christ (a Bible is not hard to find) and examine the news for examples of the teachings of Evangelicals that are clearly NOT the teachings of Christ or actually go directly against his teachings. That is not opinion. Conclusions DRAWN from those results MAY be opinion, but fact are facts.
but here Trump will have no more or less power than does Biden. We have checks and balances regardless of histrionic campaign speech.
That was perhaps true previously but since PROJECT 2025 that's not thew case. While we like to think of the Executive Branch as one man, the President, it is in fact a team. It should be obvious for just one example that had VP Pence been a tad more of a Yes Man lackey, things might be very different right now. Now take that example and make it universal and it's good bye checks and balances and that's what a large and well-financed, well organized majority of the so-called modern Right are either involved in or accede to.
I sincerely do not have a problem with Christian Conservatives but I'm all but terrified of Christian Nationalists. That ANY sitting congressional official would publicly announce
"I'm tired of this separation of church and state junk. This is not in the Constitution, it was in a stinking letter and it means nothing like what they say it does. The government is not supposed to direct the church, churches should direct the government. "
should terrify everyone considering all of past History as well as current events. It really doesn't matter which official made this statement since it is a reflection of belief such a statement would not be struck down and would be accepted "as Gospel" by a sufficiently large number to be worth any risk. That this statement is just one of many tossed out to "The Base" by people who only pay lip service (or hand service) should be a red flag conservatives are being "sold a bill of goods" that is about as safe a bet as a construction worker trying to collect debts from Trump.
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