So every year, we swing back and forth one hour, and just a few more days - 2 AM Sunday Nov 1st, it finally ends.

I still try to find any actual logical reason why some countries like here in the US (save for a few states) - that still observe this pointless ritual.

I can't really find any real sources that still has any benefits. It all seems like just a mindless reflex. So far the 'biggest' argument is that it 'saves energy.' Based on what? Since it's implementation energy consumption has obviously drastically changed.

The so-called 'health benefits' are rather dubious, and in fact just causes no real gain, but just throws everyone's sleeping cycle off a bit. Oh yea, some benefit.

Farmers don't benefit at all from it.

Is it the fact that it is still observed, because it would just be more costly to just switch all automated systems to just stay on standard time?

Why is DST still a thing?

DST is based on a myth that it somehow magickally mystickally conserves energy.

Also, pigs have wings.

re post #1: interesting video (but the background laughs suck).
somehow i just assumed that there is (still) a reason for it...
working with people, i have to say we all noticed an overall increase in grumpiness this monday (yes, it already happened here in my country).

the best remark i once heard was from a hippie woman, who refused to set her clock according to dst, because it was not in harmony with mother nature... but, cows really don't care one way or another (watch the video).

the soviet union just had dst the whole year round.

In my experience here in Latvia DST just increases power consumption. After going DST it now gets darker earlier which makes us use the lights earlier.

I'd like to lose the standard time and stick to the daylight savings time.

Thats just it. It was implemented in a time when power and fuel consumption was way different than it is now, even let say if there were any benefits back then, there sure aren't any now, and power consumption has actually increased when switching from standard to dst. So, my question is, would it be more expensive in the short term to just stay on standard time? Yet wouldn't it offest any further costs in the long run?

I am also grumpier when I have to lose an hour, and I am eagerly waiting Nov 1st, so I can go back to standard time.

So far I still find nothing online, or anyone here that has actually given any sort of legitimate reason as to WHY DST is still being implemented.

The argument for DST here (UK) is something about school children not travelling in the dark or something but I've never really understood that. I sometimes see some mention of farmers also but that's got to be rubbish as farmers will simply get up with the sun, the cock, the cows or whatever so they're up if they need to be up and clock time is irrelevant.
I always find my sleep cycles a little disturbed by the change to DST and a little less so by the change back to GMT. DST makes it more difficult to work out the time in other countries also -- without it the UTC offset makes it simple to know but with it things are more tricky.
I think it's time DST was done away with but vmccord has a point that in doing so it might make more sense for some places to move their time zone ahead an hour. I know it has been proposed in the UK a few times and, I think, one summer the clocks even went forwards two hours as a trial.

I would prefer to stick to 'BST', as it's known here, all year round and with, or without, "double" BST in summer. It beats going home in the dark at 5pm...

The "farmers" argument is valid, but it applies to Scotland and probably to a lesser extent Northern Ireland. Sunrises would be very late if they had BST all year round - but one argument for this is that Scotland could just use a different time zone.

I don't understand the farmers argument at all. Why does a farmer care what time the clock says it is? If you get up at sunrise then you would have to set your alarm (if you had one) to a different time every day -- wouldn't that be more trouble than it's worth when you could just get up when you're woken by the sun or a cock crowing?

Source: http://www.timeanddate.com/time/dst/history.html

So, yes... DST was just another thing applied because of war and farmers didn't have to do anything with it.. I have (and pretty much nobody has) no idea why it's still in use today.. Maybe we just got used to it..

Well actually farmers do still live in the real world along with the rest of us.

Yes, so, why does the time matter to a farmer? Sure, if you want to meet up with somebody you've got to agree a time but things like feeding animals, ploughing fields and the like don't have to start at 09:00 and finish at 17:00. The farms I've visited seemed to have the schedule led by the animals or the weather and not much else. I can't think of a reason why a farmer would need 07:00 to be lighter or darker.

Here in deep south it does not make sense at all, daylight time in summer and winter is almost the same.

Which is why HI is the one state that as a whole state does not participate in dst.

Thats what I am theorizing. There is no actual rhyme or reason for DST at this point in time, and it just seems out of sheer unwillingness to just stay on standard time. Why I don't know, its not like it would be difficult for any automated system (computers, etc) to just disable DST. I don't see how it would also impact businesses negatively, or the world economy.

Now this is just DST, I am going off a bit on a tangent now, because there are also parts of the world that don't strictly adhere to UTC anyways, parts of Australia is either +30 in some areas, India also adds like 30min to their timezone, Afghanistan is UTC+45. Oh and just recently the DPRK is considering switching their clocks (out of sync of ROK) - reason being to be on an hour 'pre-colonial' era or something. I dunno, its the DPRK, so not like it would make any sense. Also Venezuela is UTC+45 too.

Still, also China, ALL of China is set to Beijing time which is also a problem in their western most areas because of it. Again, not anything to do with DST, but there are still even quirks with the adherence of UTC as well, and every nation is not required to adhere to it anyways.

Oh yea and another tangent, the International date line, countries between it, e.g Samoa and how Samoa and American Samoa differ by an hour I think is it?

Still main subject, the benefits of NOT observing DST outweigh any sort of argument in still keeping DST. The farming argument is a 'meh', since even farmers indicated there have been no actual benefits to DST.

I still really believe that in the long run it would be better for energy consumption if we didn't observe DST, because again it was implemented during a time when fuel and energy needs were vastly different than it is now, so it is no longer logical to adhere to it.