4/20/2006 - ShelleyTheRepublican
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I've tried to start a dialog with Shelley.....The one new thing I have gotten is a statement to the effect that Brazil is a problem that must be dealt with. I don't yet have clarification as to what that means.
I think possibly that Shelley is real, but that the Linux article was a spoof sent by someone else. I sent her an e-mail which was basically inconsistent nonsense. Her reply: "Very interesting--may I post it on the site?"
The one new thing I have gotten is a statement to the effect that Brazil is a problem that must be dealt with. I don't yet have clarification as to what that means.
It's because their internet cafes have all changed over to linux after getting caught with pirated windows... (he says - dragging us back into linux-ish-ness) I regularily have a hot cup of jo in Brazil with my good freind Osama while pirating DVDs.
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It's because their internet cafes have all changed over to linux after getting caught with pirated windows... (he says - dragging us back into linux-ish-ness) I regularily have a hot cup of jo in Brazil with my good freind Osama while pirating DVDs.
That's exactly the problem, pal. That low-priced high-quality Brazilian coffee is crushing the legitimate right of Americans to pay too much for Folgers and Maxwell house. It's downright unAmerican I tell you! They must be crushed like coffee beans until they submit to the domination.
Me being the most conservative, fundamentalist Christian probably any of you will ever meet, I must say that this "ShelleytheRepublican" is blasphemy, whether it is a joke or not. I am pretty sure it is a joke, since it was published in the "humor" section of linuxtoday.com.
Saying that God is on Bush's side or America's side is incorrect. Bush and all Republicans are essentially liberal secularists and are, IMO only a "lesser of two evils," if there is such a thing. Therefore, I do not vote.
Saying that God is on the side of Microsoft?? That's where blasphemy comes in, as Microsoft has supported gay marriage in the past. God does not care what OS we use, what car we drive or what country we live in, God cares for the hearts and souls of all men.
To invoke the name of God in such a way as "Shelley" has done is very dangerous, whether done by a true "extremist" Republican type or by a liberal-Democrat prankster.
Sayin that George Bush and the Republicans are "liberal secularist" is pretty ridiculous. How about some justification there fella?
Sayin that George Bush and the Republicans are "liberal secularist" is pretty ridiculous. How about some justification there fella?
I don't think it can be justified using a typical worldview. I don't think quotes from Scripture would be taken too well either.
My point was not that they are "liberal secularist" in comparison with liberal Democrats, but in comparison with biblical Christianity (which, as a Christian, I believe is the only true measurement). Of course, some things in Christianity may be classified as "liberal" today. Come to think of it, there's not really a comparison that one could draw as far as Christianity being liberal or conservative in the world's eyes.
For example, the Bible condemns homosexual activities. The Bible forbids divorce and remarriage. This would be classified as conservative. The Bible promotes a socialist, perhaps even communist style of government (though this would only work if all people were moral, otherwise it falls apart). This would be classified as liberal, right?
I'm not sure where I'm going with this, but like I said, I don't think this an appropriate environment to argue from the Bible. So there's not really much I can say.
people like that don't represent conservatives.. I am (for the most part) conservative and think that she is a complete moron. judge us as a group, not by a single (stupid) person.
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"...were in not for the Linux project's seductive Marxist ideology..."
Ah-hah! Here's the real issue. Classic representation of the problem Republicans have with the concept of sharing. It's really funny how republicans automatically jump to the conclusion that any kind of communism is evil. Ask a republican what communism is in it's basic form, and I promise they won't know.
I'm a republican, and somehow I know.
Of course, I'm a former Marxist myself, but you can't deny that there are incredibly stupid people on both sides of the isle. You shouldn't make incredibly generalizing statements like you just did. The fact that many people don't know what communism is is true, and believe me, simply for the point of accuracy it frustrates me too. But that has much more to do with general ignorance than anything else, and those kinds of people don't usually care enough to have any sort of political opinions.
Peter, I agree. People tend to lump Republicans, Conservatives, and Christians all in one basket when they are three different things (with Christianity probably being the oddball in the group).
And yet the Open Source philosophy does not clash with any of the three, and is actually very compatible (especially with Christian ideology).
I'm thinking shelleytherepublican is just trying to lump three separate ideologies together and make them all look bad at once. I'm sure most conservatives, Republicans, and Christians would find that web-site disgusting. And I think most would also agree, or at least have no problem, with Open Source.
We still don't know for sure if Shelley is for real......If her site IS satire, it is poorly done. If she is real, then she is a complete fool.
I think I am starting to be more concerned about why KDE on Arch is not working....
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We still don't know for sure if Shelley is for real......If her site IS satire, it is poorly done. If she is real, then she is a complete fool.
She's probably a liberal simply trying to make conservatives look like fools. I e-mailed her, and she responded in the same manner. She's apparantly tyring to keep it up wherever she is.
Me being the most conservative, fundamentalist Christian probably any of you will ever meet, I must say that this "ShelleytheRepublican" is blasphemy, whether it is a joke or not. I am pretty sure it is a joke, since it was published in the "humor" section of linuxtoday.com. [...]To invoke the name of God in such a way as "Shelley" has done is very dangerous, whether done by a true "extremist" Republican type or by a liberal-Democrat prankster.
Not to worry... I suspect that God has encountered many such shenanigans by His humans in the past... laying claim to Him for fun and profit. Claiming to know Him. Claiming to be His friend or that He is their friend. All in a day's work for an all-powerful Deity.
"Be not deceived .. God is not mocked ..." I suspect that He knows how to take care of Himself.
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We still don't know for sure if Shelley is for real......If her site IS satire, it is poorly done. If she is real, then she is a complete fool.
Although... if she is lying, who says she's female? It is Shelly Goodman...
Back on topic, I really think people shouldn't make these sites/blogs that are entirely satire that get too serious. For example, I found this site last year satirising the Christian right: http://www.angelfire.com/on4/calebhamer/aboutme.html
I had actually fallen for it and treated it seriously when the apparant owner starts talking about hitting his wife. That's when it's not satire anymore. If you are going to run a site like Shelly is, then you need to leave clues, write in a slightly satirical voice, or at least respond honestly in an e-mail.
I don't think it can be justified using a typical worldview. I don't think quotes from Scripture would be taken too well either.
My point was not that they are "liberal secularist" in comparison with liberal Democrats, but in comparison with biblical Christianity (which, as a Christian, I believe is the only true measurement). Of course, some things in Christianity may be classified as "liberal" today. Come to think of it, there's not really a comparison that one could draw as far as Christianity being liberal or conservative in the world's eyes.
For example, the Bible condemns homosexual activities. The Bible forbids divorce and remarriage. This would be classified as conservative. The Bible promotes a socialist, perhaps even communist style of government (though this would only work if all people were moral, otherwise it falls apart). This would be classified as liberal, right?
I'm not sure where I'm going with this, but like I said, I don't think this an appropriate environment to argue from the Bible. So there's not really much I can say.
No, you're just being patently ridiculous and can't jusitify your claims. Liberal secularists? That's silly. I fail to see how George Bush and the Republicans could be considered secularists simply because they don't conform to the particulary concoction of Judeo-Christianity that you do. You have sort of a fringe view and then expect the truth of it to simply be taken for granted simply by virtue of uttering your position.
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