google shows u cant chec
sum no more do u have to check sum from inside if fedora?

Please clarify what you mean.

when u go on google thre md5
on fedora u ned sahzam 1

I'm still not really certain what you need either, so I will say everything I know about the subject. If you want to verify your downloaded Fedora ISO file, you need to generate a sha1sum checksum string for it. You compare the string you generate on the downloaded file to the string in the file SHA1SUM available from wherever you got the ISO file. The two strings must be perfectly identical. You cannot use md5sum to generate a checksum string to be compared to a sha1sum string because the result is completely different. In Linux, you can generate the sha1sum checksum string with the terminal command sha1sum [iso filename here]. In Windows, you can do it with the free utility SHA1SUM.EXE available from the gnugp download server. It works in a Windows Command Prompt window and the syntax is the same as the Linux version. Also know that it takes several minutes to generate the checksum string for those huge ISO files. Be patient.

i tried to get em off google tried linux tried windows.
gave up after failures.tried 100 sights to get decent checksum
none passed,think maybe i can dig up realy old like fedora 5 or 6
cd and do upgrade. i wanted to burn 7 live, or maybe i can get some one with working copy to get one my way, dont know

There is no sense in installing FC5 or 6 and doing a (software) upgrade (trough internet reposities using package manager). It's probable to give errors, and it's usually slower than if you download and burn the install discs and do a clean install.

Maybe, if you ran sha1sum against the downloaded .iso files and checked if it is or is not identical to the sum in SHA1SUM file at the download server, and found out it's not, the download is corrupt? Does the file size match, because if it doesn't, it surely differs? Maybe try downloading again?

After burning the discs, when you boot off the first setup disc, you are asked if you'd like to check the installation set for errors. You can use that before insalling to verify that the burned disks are fine. They're not, if the .iso files are already corrupt, but even ok iso files may get corrupted during burn process. If you have rewritable discs, you can just burn the .iso files on them and run the check after booting, and if you get failure with some discs, re-download and/or -burn them and try again.

md5sum and sha1sum do basically the same thing (form and check checksums), but in a different way. You use the one for which the download site offers a comparable checksum for; if Fedora's download site has SHA1SUM check files among the iso files, you use sha1sum, and if they offer MD5SUM check files, you use md5sum - or if both, you can choose freely (just don't mix them).

only thing left is if some one can burn em and they work id have to pay em
or go to store and bye discs

CD's are so cheap today that I wouldn't hesitate to just burn it. At installation Fedora itself can scan the CD for defects and if there are any you just have to try again...

Juergen