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Old 06-11-2011, 02:29 AM   #1
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Install Redcarpet on Fedora 13


I would like a better Software Manager; in my opinion ,for Fedora 13. Is there any way to do this and still use Fedora 13?

Thanks....................in...................advance?
 
Old 06-11-2011, 04:03 AM   #2
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I would like a better Software Manager
WHY
fedora 13 is at END OF LIFE
There will NEVER be any more software to install on it
There will never be any more security fixes
There will be - -well NOTHING !!!

install the current Fedora 15 .
 
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Old 06-11-2011, 06:26 AM   #3
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Having the very powerful tool 'yum', there is really no need for
a package manager in Fedora / CentOS, etc.

# yum search <name> (or part of name) : To find a package name.

# yum provides */<file-name> : To find the package providing <file-name>.

# yum list all > all.txt :
Saves the text file with all available packages in the current directory.

And : # 'yum deplist <name>' : The dependencies for <name>.

The yum manual http://linux.die.net/man/8/yum

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Old 06-12-2011, 11:28 AM   #4
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upgrade to Fedora 15

yumex is a simple GUI for yum
 
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Old 06-12-2011, 02:40 PM   #5
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Well , Package Kit has been a disappointment to me anyways.

I had Mandriva 08 on for two years before I reinstalled it because Hot Plugging would not work. I should have dug out the daemons for this purpose and reinstalled them. At this time the mirrors for Mandriva would have an error message for everything to reinstall the applications that I had before reinstalling. I tried Mandriva 10 and could not get a media player to work on it , not even VLC. I decided the replacement had to be RPM oriented because I wanted a distro that had a priority to follow a protocol and not just do things on a whim. I tried Suse and was disgusted so I had no choice but to stick it out with Fedora. I got used to Fedora and learned a lot compared to Mandriva mostly because of the LACK of DrakeTools ,MCC and a decent Software Manager front end. I started to use the CLI on a regular basis because of Package Kit. The search option of Packaged Kit does sometimes work. But it has made me abandon it because it pales dramatically to Mandriva's version. Mandriva's version actually works. If you use the search option it will retrieve and answer in a few seconds as compared to Fedora's ten minutes with a search result of (not found) for some thing common like VLC or K3b. Fedora does work as a whole better in most cases except for yumex or whatever. I'm inclined to be a Fedora user for the long run but the front end for Yum is maybe the only bad thing about the distro. I would rather leave 13 on because it does not have any operational problems and I have a heap of applications loaded on it. I have not seen a strong case to update to a newer version of a distro unless it is the path of least resistance out of a problem.


I don't think that My installed version of Package Kit has a bug but that the developers don't care about it like ,linux not coming out of Suspend , Movie Player Preview not working or Weather Report not updating. Package Kit has all the symptoms of low expectations and they just want to fill in a BLANK as far as their O.S is concerned. The system log files of Package Kit are also not even close to what actually happens with the history.

I will most likely stick it out with Fedora 13 because it has been a really solid O.S. otherwise and this could actually be my first application to create something that I feel fills the hole that Fedora leaves. Other than Package Kit there is only a small list of things I would do different than Fedora. It works damn good otherwise!

Thanks for the input!


Edit: looks like I don't really know what Yumex is!

[kbs@localhost ~]$ yumex
Command not found. Install package 'yumex' to provide command 'yumex'? [N/y]
* Running..
* Resolving dependencies..
* Downloading update information..
The following packages have to be installed:
python-chardet-2.0.1-1.fc13.noarch Character encoding auto-detection in Python
python-kitchen-1.0.0-1.fc13.noarch Small, useful pieces of code to make python coding easier
pexpect-2.3-4.fc12.noarch Pure Python Expect-like module
Proceed with changes? [N/y]
* Waiting for authentication..
* Running..
* Resolving dependencies..
* Downloading packages..

I don't know the difference between Yumex and Package Kit. I'll post after I research this more.

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Old 06-12-2011, 03:28 PM   #6
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I will most likely stick it out with Fedora 13 because it has been a really solid O.S
you just do not UNDERSTAND
fedora 13 is END OF LIFE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
fedora 13 is DEAD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
there is NO SUPPORT any more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There will NEVER be any bug fixes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There will NEVER be any new software !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There will NEVER be any new hardware support !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fedora is a fast past research and development distro
with a VERY NEW and VERY different NEW VERSION every 6 months .
do your self a very big favor and do a bit of research
you can start here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedora_(operating_system)
then the fedora docs
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/index.html
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/16/Schedule
 
Old 06-12-2011, 06:40 PM   #7
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Installed Yumex and I do get it.That is why I'm not updating.Thanks anyways

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I have not seen a strong case to update to a newer version of a distro unless it is the path of least resistance out of a problem.
Thanks for the input on that subject.

I would have to say it is about the same as Package Kits Back-end and does next to nothing. I can't understand why anyone would make a new related application that is basically the same as the application that it is based on. I think Package Kit is working better with Yumex installed. Maybe a library issue? I did a search and I got a reasult back faster with an error message that yum was locked. I Think that every time Package Kit is used it automatically updates which makes it slow. Instead of freezing I get the (Down loading symbol) with Package Kit now.


Code:
[root@localhost kbs]# yum install nothing
Loaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit
Existing lock /var/run/yum.pid: another copy is running as pid 8905.
Another app is currently holding the yum lock; waiting for it to exit...
  The other application is: yum_childtask.p
    Memory :  84 M RSS ( 98 MB VSZ)
    Started: Sun Jun 12 17:50:33 2011 - 16:12 ago
    State  : Sleeping, pid: 8905
Another app is currently holding the yum lock; waiting for it to exit...
  The other application is: yum_childtask.p
    Memory :  84 M RSS ( 98 MB VSZ)
    Started: Sun Jun 12 17:50:33 2011 - 16:14 ago
    State  : Sleeping, pid: 8905
Another app is currently holding the yum lock; waiting for it to exit...
  The other application is: yum_childtask.p
    Memory :  84 M RSS ( 98 MB VSZ)
    Started: Sun Jun 12 17:50:33 2011 - 16:16 ago
    State  : Sleeping, pid: 8905
Another app is currently holding the yum lock; waiting for it to exit...
  The other application is: yum_childtask.p
    Memory :  84 M RSS ( 98 MB VSZ)
    Started: Sun Jun 12 17:50:33 2011 - 16:18 ago
    State  : Sleeping, pid: 8905
Another app is currently holding the yum lock; waiting for it to exit...
  The other application is: yum_childtask.p
    Memory :  84 M RSS ( 98 MB VSZ)
    Started: Sun Jun 12 17:50:33 2011 - 16:20 ago
    State  : Sleeping, pid: 8905
^C

Exiting on user cancel.
[root@localhost kbs]# kill 8905
[root@localhost kbs]#

Package Kit seems to be working better but I wish it had more functionality.

Thanks for the Replies!
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Old 06-12-2011, 06:50 PM   #8
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I think Package Kit is working better with Yumex installed
?????
the two are not related
do not share code
and one will NOT affect the other

use "yum" in the terminal .
 
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Old 06-13-2011, 11:18 AM   #9
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If you want very stable and solid Fedora, then go for latest versions of scientific linux or centos or rhel
 
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