Updating a debian box to jessie from like 2012/2013

Cyberman · 03-11-2016, 05:39 AM

It was wheezy. And I've done various apt-get update/upgrade, etc...
I'm having so many obscure issues.
One issue is synaptic saying there is stuff to upgrade when apt says there isn't, and yet a package upgrader thingy says there are...
Conflicting information...

Here's one issue that seems important:

Code:

.6-1 [583 kB]
Get:35 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable/main xfce4-panel amd64 4.10.1-1 [1078 kB]
Fetched 9733 kB in 3s (2434 kB/s)  
Can't set locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct!
Reading changelogs... Done
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
	LANGUAGE = (unset),
	LC_ALL = (unset),
	LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"
    are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
Extracting templates from packages: 100%

Also, are we still using Xorg?

I don't want to reboot until all installs and upgrades occur; because I don't want to break the box. I at least want an xscreen with terminal and connection.

jens · 03-11-2016, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyberman

perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
LANGUAGE = (unset),
LC_ALL = (unset),
LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"

Run dpkg-reconfigure locales and select/generate your "locale settings" (or do it manually if unavailable).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyberman

Also, are we still using Xorg?

Yes. (wayland support is only for testing purposes)

Cyberman · 03-11-2016, 03:51 PM

NOTE: I'm now using w3m to post on the forum. *smh*

Bummer. It would appear that Xorg broke, because the fglrx driver is not present in Jessie.

Also, could someone please harshly critize the Debian stable crew for allowing upgrades to occur in relation to people who actually use that driver and still have the hardware installed as their only video card? I mean, this kind of issue is way too old. I don't want to use Linux or nix OS's anymore because of this situation, but I need a computer and this is all I have at the moment. I'm tired of fixing broken packages, etc.. dependency issues, monitoring things, etc.. The upgrades shouldn't be breaking my box. That X is broke is a really stupid, old graphics issue that I'm surprised they saw this as. Should have been a big blue warning screen saying "WARNING! YOU USE THE FGLRX DRIVER FOR X! JESSIE DOESN'T HAVE THAT! DO YOU WANT TO STILL UPGRADE?! X MIGHT BREAK!!!" Or something more obvious than "Do you want to uninstall fglrx?" I mean, after three years have passed, I barely remembered wtf it was about. I figured Debian and Ubuntu guys had the graphics issues down. I don't know why the ATI Radeon (HD) 3000 card/chip (mobo chip) is such an issue; but it woudl appear it is... Just someone, please smack these dudes for failing to empathize how serious the graphics card issues are. At least my Internet still works. Ugh!!!

Besides that, X is broke. I tried replacing fglrx or whatever with vesa in the xorg.conf, and xorg.conf wouldn't load up gnome. I don't know what's going on. I need help here. I need to get into X and Gnome, because Icedove has my only access to my gmail using the authent. password at the moment.

Also, the dpkg-configure locales thing threw up an error. I can't copy and paste it, though.

Higgsboson · 03-11-2016, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyberman

NOTE: I'm now using w3m to post on the forum. *smh*

Bummer. It would appear that Xorg broke, because the fglrx driver is not present in Jessie.

Also, could someone please harshly critize the Debian stable crew for allowing upgrades to occur in relation to people who actually use that driver and still have the hardware installed as their only video card? I mean, this kind of issue is way too old. I don't want to use Linux or nix OS's anymore because of this situation, but I need a computer and this is all I have at the moment. I'm tired of fixing broken packages, etc.. dependency issues, monitoring things, etc.. The upgrades shouldn't be breaking my box. That X is broke is a really stupid, old graphics issue that I'm surprised they saw this as. Should have been a big blue warning screen saying "WARNING! YOU USE THE FGLRX DRIVER FOR X! JESSIE DOESN'T HAVE THAT! DO YOU WANT TO STILL UPGRADE?! X MIGHT BREAK!!!" Or something more obvious than "Do you want to uninstall fglrx?" I mean, after three years have passed, I barely remembered wtf it was about.

I must say I agree entirely with what you're saying.

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I figured Debian and Ubuntu guys had the graphics issues down. I don't know why the ATI Radeon (HD) 3000 card/chip (mobo chip) is such an issue;

Mine is a similar ATI Radeon (HD) 5000 series.
It seems that once hardware get older, there is less and less support from the manufacturer for the hardware.

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Besides that, X is broke. I tried replacing fglrx or whatever with vesa in the xorg.conf, and xorg.conf wouldn't load up gnome. I don't know what's going on. I need help here. I need to get into X and Gnome, because Icedove has my only access to my gmail using the authent. password at the moment.

When I made my new Debian 8 install, I ended up with no sound and video as usual because I have an old Radeon integrated graphics card.
However, I installed 'firmware-linux-nonfree' package and the problem was sorted out. It looks like one simple package may remedy the problem.

You first need to remove all those fgrlx drivers you've installed using 'rm' and 'purge' commands. Else there will be conflicts.

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Also, the dpkg-configure locales thing threw up an error. I can't copy and paste it, though.

See if this helps: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1623...y-locale-issue

Have you added 'contrib' and 'non-free' to your /etc/apt/sources.list and then run 'apt-get update'?

jens · 03-12-2016, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyberman

NOTE: I'm now using w3m to post on the forum. *smh*

Bummer. It would appear that Xorg broke, because the fglrx driver is not present in Jessie.

Also, could someone please harshly critize the Debian stable crew for allowing upgrades to occur in relation to people who actually use that driver and still have the hardware installed as their only video card? I mean, this kind of issue is way too old. I don't want to use Linux or nix OS's anymore because of this situation, but I need a computer and this is all I have at the moment. I'm tired of fixing broken packages, etc.. dependency issues, monitoring things, etc.. The upgrades shouldn't be breaking my box. That X is broke is a really stupid, old graphics issue that I'm surprised they saw this as. Should have been a big blue warning screen saying "WARNING! YOU USE THE FGLRX DRIVER FOR X! JESSIE DOESN'T HAVE THAT! DO YOU WANT TO STILL UPGRADE?! X MIGHT BREAK!!!" Or something more obvious than "Do you want to uninstall fglrx?" I mean, after three years have passed, I barely remembered wtf it was about. I figured Debian and Ubuntu guys had the graphics issues down. I don't know why the ATI Radeon (HD) 3000 card/chip (mobo chip) is such an issue; but it woudl appear it is... Just someone, please smack these dudes for failing to empathize how serious the graphics card issues are. At least my Internet still works. Ugh!!!

Besides that, X is broke. I tried replacing fglrx or whatever with vesa in the xorg.conf, and xorg.conf wouldn't load up gnome. I don't know what's going on. I need help here. I need to get into X and Gnome, because Icedove has my only access to my gmail using the authent. password at the moment.

Also, the dpkg-configure locales thing threw up an error. I can't copy and paste it, though.

Please fix the state of your system before toying with ATI/AMD.
See the release notes for a proper way to upgrade (your issues are mostly PEBKAC).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyberman

NOTE: I'm now using w3m to post on the forum. *smh*

Bummer. It would appear that Xorg broke, because the fglrx driver is not present in Jessie.

It *IS* available in Jessie: https://packages.debian.org/jessie/fglrx-modules-dkms (as an easy to use self-updating package).

However, AMD/ATI/fglrx stopped supporting your device ages ago (even before wheezy).
You're probably using an old backport from a legacy-fglrx version, remove/purge it (AMD stopped its development).
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugr...cgi?bug=788804
https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary

Try the one from Xorg (https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo) and don't smack others for buying broken hardware.

PS: X doesn't need a .conf to start (remove it).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyberman

Also, the dpkg-configure locales thing threw up an error.

#export LANGUAGE=en_US.UTF-8
#export LANG=en_US.UTF-8
#export LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8
#locale-gen en_US.UTF-8
#dpkg-reconfigure locales

Cyberman · 03-22-2016, 12:15 AM

Well, so far, I have some obscure GDM or start-up Window manager that gives me a login screen. When I login, it throws me back to the login screen. The error is too fast for me to relay here. I reason I'll tackle this issue a little bit each day.

Higgsboson · 03-22-2016, 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyberman

Well, so far, I have some obscure GDM or start-up Window manager that gives me a login screen. When I login, it throws me back to the login screen. The error is too fast for me to relay here. I reason I'll tackle this issue a little bit each day.

It should've occurred to you by now that it's best to do a new install of Debian 8 (jessie).
Simply place a copy of your /home directory into a data partition.
Delete and re-format the partition of your old Debian distro.
Install latest version of Debian into the same physical location of your HDD.
Then simply paste your files from your saved /home directory held on your data partition.

After encountering problems with upgrading from Wheezy to Jessie, I used the method above. I was up and running in no time!