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I notice that in the most recent sources.list I have (which I picked up from either SimplyMEPIS 11 or its antiX variant, I forget which), there are separate Debian Stable and Debian Squeeze repositories. I'm confused, because I thought Squeeze was the new stable. What's the difference?
There is no difference. You should only have stable or squeeze in your sources.list, but not both, for a simple reason. If you only have stable in your sources.list and the next version (Wheezy) becomes stable you will automatically be upgraded to the next version if you do a normal update. If you don't want this behavior simply change it to squeeze and it will stay squeeze, even if Wheezy will become stable.
HOwever in practice. I have wodim installed on both machines. One is stable and another is squeeze as below in the sourcs.list
The one below has cdrecord into /usr/bin and has squeeze into sources.list
and the another one with also wodim installed with stable into the sources.list has no /usr/bin/cdrecord
but you must use wodim instead ... so difference in practice?
Furthermore, maybe there are other differences or they changed something during the time of installation
Code:
deb http://ftp.XX.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.XX.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main
deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze main non-free
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ squeeze main
There is no difference. You should only have stable or squeeze in your sources.list, but not both, for a simple reason. If you only have stable in your sources.list and the next version (Wheezy) becomes stable you will automatically be upgraded to the next version if you do a normal update. If you don't want this behavior simply change it to squeeze and it will stay squeeze, even if Wheezy will become stable.
Wheezy isn't coming out any time soon, is it? I assume not, because I thought Debian takes years to move to a new version.
HOwever in practice. I have wodim installed on both machines. One is stable and another is squeeze as below in the sourcs.list
The one below has cdrecord into /usr/bin and has squeeze into sources.list
and the another one with also wodim installed with stable into the sources.list has no /usr/bin/cdrecord
but you must use wodim instead ... so difference in practice?
Furthermore, maybe there are other differences or they changed something during the time of installation
Code:
deb http://ftp.XX.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.XX.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main
deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze main non-free
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ squeeze main
Normally this shouldn't be possible, since there is only one repository (under the name of squeeze) and the other (named stable) is only a link to the squeeze repository. This way they only have to change the link to make a new version stable.
Probably an elder antix iso. It, antix, uses both, stable and testing repos. So at the time of that iso squeeze was still testing, hence you got stable for stable and squeeze for testing.
If i recall correct anitx has got the sid repos too, but commented.
If it was me i would ask _before_ i copy and paste repos. Might avoid a lot of trouble.
Probably an elder antix iso. It, antix, uses both, stable and testing repos. So at the time of that iso squeeze was still testing, hence you got stable for stable and squeeze for testing.
If i recall correct anitx has got the sid repos too, but commented.
Yes, I was fooling around with antiX recently, but am done now. An elder one? No, it was the one corresponding to MEPIS 11.
Quote:
Originally Posted by j1alu
If it was me i would ask _before_ i copy and paste repos. Might avoid a lot of trouble.
I agree. I decided not to bother displaying my sources.list until someone asked to see it.
Oops. Well, for what it's worth, I didn't graft entries from an old source list into this new source list that I got from antiX. I used the entire antiX source list unaltered. (With one exception: I copied the Debian Lenny backports list into it, because lenny-backports has the most recent version of Pidgin that I know works for me. The next highest version, whichever repository it came from, wouldn't work. I never knew what the problem there was, but I'm not taking any chances.)
When running stable, I can see no reason to track stable unless you want to dist upgrade without fail every release - as stable releases are so far apart I can see no reason for doing this. As a general rule for stable it's best to track the codename e.g. "squeeze", for testing and unstable it's better to just track the distribution name unless you specifically want to run a testing distro that will eventually become stable (not many reasons to do this unless testing/unstable is at the freeze stage).
Distribution: antiX using herbstluftwm, fluxbox, IceWM and jwm.
Posts: 631
Rep:
You must have made a mistake. This is the default sources.list for antiX-M11
Code:
# See sources.list(5) for more information
# Note:If you want maximum stability, only use the stable/squeeze repos.
# MEPIS 11 series.
# Uncomment all MEPIS repos shown here to install headers and linux-kbuild
# from MEPIS repo for latest MEPIS kernel (2.6.36). Then comment back once installed.
#deb ftp://ftp.mepis.com/mepis/ mepis-11.0 main
#deb http://fr1.mepis-deb.org/mepis/ mepis-11.0 main
#deb http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.mepis.org/mepis/ mepis-11.0 main
# Mepis Community Main, Restricted, and Test Repos
# Use these repos ONLY if you enable Debian STABLE (squeeze) repo.
#deb http://main.mepis-deb.org/mepiscr/repo/ mepis11cr main non-free
#deb http://restricted.mepis-deb.org/mepiscr/repo/ mepis11cr restricted restricted-non-free
#deb http://main.mepis-deb.org/mepiscr/testrepo/ mepis11cr test
#deb http://restricted.mepis-deb.org/mepiscr/testrepo/ mepis11cr test-restricted
# Debian Testing. Default for antiX.
# Testing enabled for 'rolling' release.
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
# Debian Stable.
# Since 06-Feb-2011 this is known as "Squeeze". Use for maximum stability INSTEAD of
# the 'rolling' TESTING release concept.
# So, for max stability, UNCOMMENT the next two 'deb' lines and
# COMMENT-OUT the corresponding 'deb' lines in TESTING above.
#deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free
#deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free
# Multimedia Stable and Testing
# Use to install libdvdcss2 and codecs.
#deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org testing main non-free
#deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org stable main non-free
# goggles music manager
#deb http://apt.progchild.de stable main
#deb-src http://apt.progchild.de stable main
# opera
#deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ squeeze non-free
# virtualbox
#deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian squeeze contrib
# liquorix kernels
deb http://liquorix.net/debian/ sid main
deb http://ftp.belnet.be/mirror/liquorix.net/debian sid main
# Libre-kernel
#deb http://linux-libre.fsfla.org/pub/linux-libre/planet planet main
###### Debian Unstable/Sid##########
###### Use at your own risk! ########
#deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
#deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org unstable main non-free
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Oops. Well, for what it's worth, I didn't graft entries from an old source list into this new source list that I got from antiX. I used the entire antiX source list unaltered. (With one exception: I copied the Debian Lenny backports list into it, because lenny-backports has the most recent version of Pidgin that I know works for me. The next highest version, whichever repository it came from, wouldn't work. I never knew what the problem there was, but I'm not taking any chances.)
