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Old 03-23-2010, 11:15 AM   #1
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(Solved) Mouse actions totally fails after "fine tuning" Debian Elive.


I reinstalled and refused to allow it to fine tune ever. That solved it kind of.


I installed elive_1.9.61-zeitgeist_unstable.iso full install on a Compaq presario 8143 computer and it worked very well until the software decided to do "fine tuning". It told me it needed fine tuning so I accepted.

I had tested to do streaming video and audio and looked at Daily news sites and so on and it asked me to accept that it did "fine tuning" and then told me to reboot so they could take effect and

I lost contact with the mouse. I tested the mouse using puppy and no problem with it but Elive fail to use it after the reboot.


I am totally new to Debian Elive. Where are the file that force this Fine Tuning thing on me every time I boot up?

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Old 03-23-2010, 01:43 PM   #2
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i never have been asked something to be tweaked. sounds mystical. you may explain?
try opening a terminal and do
mv ~/.e ~/e_backup
and log out and in again (of course you can do the same from a file-manager).
you will be asked some questions.
if that doesn't help(or completely borks elive's enlightenment usuability) move e's config-folder back in place.

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Old 03-23-2010, 01:49 PM   #3
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ps:
what ever did the tweaking should be removed. all software one needs is in the official debian repositories and may be installed with synaptic, aptitude, apt-get (and some tools i don't know).
 
Old 03-23-2010, 01:58 PM   #4
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i never have been asked something to be tweaked. sounds mystical. you may explain?
try opening a terminal and do
mv ~/.e ~/e_backup
and log out and in again (of course you can do the same from a file-manager).
you will be asked some questions.
if that doesn't help(or completely borks elive's enlightenment usuability) move e's config-folder back in place.
I agree with you that I made up that word. I don't remember the exact wording they had. I try to write it down next time it come up.


It says something like this:

give us your root password and we do cli ... to make the os run better.

Or something similar. They do it each time one have installed the OS.

Maybe they only do it if one chose the most elaborate install and never show it if one do the automatic?

I asked about it on the Elive forum too but none gave any answer so I lost patience and installed it again and did Esc. when it asked it again. that was before I read your question about the unfortunate word tweak.

The word they use is not synonym to tweak but have a rather similar meaning.

What they try to say is that give us your root password and we make the os work better on your computer. I didn't remember the exact word so I used tweak because most computer users know that word.

Can I ask you another thing. Do you have the screenshot feature in Iceweasel? I have it in the 2.0 but not in the 1.9 that I could install. 2.0 needs paypal which I don't have access to.
I try to replicate it and write down a typical meaning. They write much so not easy to remember it all. I try to replicate the most important text they write. I am back within some 10 to 30 minutes I go to the other computer now and turn it on.

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Old 03-23-2010, 02:21 PM   #5
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no problem with the word tweak. i don't know situations in which such stuff happens.
so:
is it during the installation of Elive?
or is it if you open a web-browser?
or is it when Elive is allready installed, but you do install further software?

sorry for the questions, i just try to understand.
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it might also be a problem with xorg.conf.
just move it out of the way (as root) and check if it helps (like above)
mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup
if it doesnt work move it back again.
 
Old 03-23-2010, 02:22 PM   #6
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Okay I was rather close. Here is the short one.

Quote:
Your system need to be fine tuned.
Please enter your password for the root user Administrator.
And if I do esc then they force a new popup with Password (....) on me but if I then do a Esc again they don't nag until I reboot then ask same again.

Which I will only do again if somebody tells me how to get the mouse action and cursor action back because without it you can do nothing, not even cli unless you know some short cut with ctrl+t or something.

Edit

They ask it right after the installation and one have decided on user name and password for root and done the first recommended reboot. and then each time I start up the OS.

So would be cool to be able to find the script and do # to that text forcing one to do the "fine tuning" don't you think fine tuning and tweak are rather similar in meaning?

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Old 03-23-2010, 02:32 PM   #7
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ok, i got it now. yes, its the same meaning in my ears. my fault i didn't understand.

command-prompt you get with ctrl+esc, but i am not sure what the terminal of elive is.
try xterm.
try hitting the window-button (not the one with the windows-flag, the one with the window on it).
might be it opens the root-menu, and you may navigate to a terminal.

else try to leave X and open a console with alt+str+F1.
sounds like it might be a problem with the xorg.conf file.

i can't remember bout that fine-tuning in elive, but its a while ago that i installed it
(and am using e17 on debian now. of course elive is configured and all. cool OS).

good luck.
 
Old 03-23-2010, 02:33 PM   #8
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ps: i will check for some shortcuts and post them in a few minutes. then i need to sleep.
 
Old 03-23-2010, 02:41 PM   #9
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the window button is the right one to open the root-menu (right of the space there comes alt/gr, then the windows flag and then the windows button)
to open a prompt i was wrong: its alt+esc
to kill a window is: str+alt+x
to change between windows is: alt+tab (like usual)
to leave X to the login-menu is: str+alt+del (like usual).
 
Old 03-23-2010, 02:48 PM   #10
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Thanks for sharing these shortcuts.

I trust it is safer for me to never allow them to do the fine tuning. that way no need to test out all these short cuts and maybe still fail to get mouse going. None of them get the mouse repaired do they?

So the best would be to find the script that activate this recommendation that is very annoying to get because it nag each time I start up.

So most safe to never broke thing when they just works which it does now after a complete reinstalling and not allowing the fine tuning.

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