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Old 08-25-2014, 09:01 PM   #1
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No seamonkey, no iceape either


On other diostros I use samonkey as my only wordprocessor, if not nedit.

Where is it?

I also tried to isntall iceape (if that's the Debian equivalent) but it doesn't show up in the synaptic package manager. Entering iceape in the searchbox brings up libre-orifice, that's not what I want.

So I install Seamokey from source, it's there where I parked it in ~/mozillas (i KNOW it's not mozilla) and there are two icons: seamonkey & seamonkey-bin, both marked executable. Clicking either or commanding from cLi has no effect.

I'm confused.
 
Old 08-25-2014, 10:41 PM   #2
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The last time I looked, Iceape was still in the repository, but it may have been removed. Last year Debian stopped maintaining Iceape, so there is effectively no SeaMonkey in the repo.
 
Old 08-26-2014, 12:39 AM   #3
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samonkey is NOT a wordproceser !!!!

it is a restart of the Original Mozilla web browser suite
browser
email
irc
address-book

well you could build the source
if you want
but WHY

there are nightly builds and official builds
the current 2.26.1
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla....leases/2.26.1/

-- the EN language 64 bit build ( uses the 64 bit PLUGINS )

https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.....26.1/contrib/

the 32 bit EN-usa language
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla....ux-i686/en-US/
-- all languages 32 bit
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.....1/linux-i686/
 
Old 08-26-2014, 01:01 AM   #4
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samonkey is NOT a wordproceser !!!!
 
Old 08-26-2014, 01:18 AM   #5
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You are far from the only one confused.

You don't say what Debian version you are using. We have "old stable" Debian 6 (Squeeze), "stable" Debian 7 (wheezy), "testing" (Jessie which I am on right now) and "unstable" (Sid).

Have never used Iceape but have seen it in repos before. I know it is not in the testing repo;
Code:
iceape:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: (none)
  Version table:
but the fact that it shows up in that search shows it probably should be in there. Packages disapear from testing. Didn't check in Sid as I didn't see this post until I got on testing to see if it runs as well as Sid (almost).

Doing a very fast search on the web pulls up this gem;
https://packages.qa.debian.org/i/iceape.html

Which seems to indicate that the package is gone from all repos.

You state that you know seamonkey is not mozilla. Since when? Sure always has been.

You say you compliled it from source. What source?

So if you could clear up a few things like what Debian you are using, what you compiled, what your architecture is, what your hardware is and so forth it is possible that someone reading this thread may not be confused and can give you a hand.
 
Old 08-26-2014, 01:23 AM   #6
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Quote:
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samonkey is NOT a wordproceser !!!!

it is a restart of the Original Mozilla web browser suite
browser
email
irc
address-book

well you could build the source
if you want
but WHY

there are nightly builds and official builds
the current 2.26.1
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla....leases/2.26.1/

-- the EN language 64 bit build ( uses the 64 bit PLUGINS )

https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.....26.1/contrib/

the 32 bit EN-usa language
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla....ux-i686/en-US/
-- all languages 32 bit
https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.....1/linux-i686/
Seamokey isn't either.

As far as I know Seamonkey isn't either.

As someone that used Netscape from 1998 until it folded I can say that I never used it as a word processor either.
 
Old 08-26-2014, 02:10 AM   #7
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Why not just download & install itl
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/
The only drwback is you have to do the updating manually.

Last edited by EDDY1; 08-26-2014 at 11:36 AM.
 
Old 08-26-2014, 09:59 AM   #8
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Download the binaries as suggested. Extract it in /opt , which is usually the best place for statically compiled stuff, or if you must, somewhere like /usr/local/mozilla

Code:
# cd /opt
# wget https://download-installer.cdn.mozilla.net/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.26.1/linux-i686/en-US/seamonkey-2.26.1.tar.bz2
# tar jxvf seamonk*
# cd seamonk*
# ln -s /opt/seamonkey/seamonkey /usr/local/bin/seamonkey
You should then be able to run it from the cli as a user e.g.
Code:
$ seamonkey
Or add to menus, etc.

Last edited by cynwulf; 08-26-2014 at 10:33 AM. Reason: fixed download link
 
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Old 08-27-2014, 10:01 AM   #9
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Hi,

for the full list of iceape packages currently in Debian search packages.debian.org.

HTH,

Evo2.
 
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Old 08-28-2014, 11:36 PM   #10
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I'm using Debian 7.4/64 all updated which I presume makes it like a 7.6

The box is amd64-8core, 16gb ram with 4 x 2tb disks each hosting a dozen or so linuxes, plus 2 laptops similarly arranged, one i7, one measly eeepc

Seamonkey is NOT mozilla

"I" use Seamonkey as my word processor because it's all I need and it works on every system and I have used it as my only word processor for 15 years (Netscape suite before), I still use the old netscape icon for every web-navigator I allow in my house and I DON'T call ANY of them browsers.

I tried the seamonkey install every which way I can think of but all I ever get is no-such-file-or-directory or such, even if I 'browse' into the menu the very visible local file in the very visible local folder where I unpacked it.

I even tried to copy a complete unpacked folder over from a suse install, one that i KNOW executes because I ran it just prior to be sure and still all I get is no such file or directory.

I found the security cleared version (thanks EVO2) @ https://packages.debian.org/squeeze/all/iceape/download and downloaded it but pointing synaptic to the folder only results in a ghosted unusable filename in the list

Finally, after a dozen tries I managed to get the above sourced security repo

deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security squeeze/updates main

into synaptic only to end up with "Could not apply changes, fix broken packages first" because the 'suite' entry turns red when selected

that's as far as I got...
 
Old 08-28-2014, 11:59 PM   #11
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I don't think installing iceape from squeeze will work, better to install from mozilla & update it manually.
As you can see mixing squeeze with wheezy gives you broken packages.
 
Old 08-29-2014, 03:08 AM   #12
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Quote:
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Seamonkey is NOT mozilla
The folks at SeaMonkey seem to disagree.
Quote:
Under the hood, SeaMonkey uses much of the same Mozilla source code which powers such successful siblings as Firefox and Thunderbird. Legal backing is provided by the Mozilla Foundation.
And "Powered by Mozilla" is proudly proclaimed on SeakMonkey's website. Also, the Bookmarks menu has an entry for "SeaMonkey and Mozilla." Inside that is a bookmark for Mozilla.org.

SeaMonkey is not Firefox, but it is built with Mozilla code.

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I still use the old netscape icon for every web-navigator I allow in my house and I DON'T call ANY of them browsers.
Call your browser whatever you like, but it is still a web browser.

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I found the security cleared version (thanks EVO2) @ https://packages.debian.org/squeeze/all/iceape/download and downloaded it but pointing synaptic to the (directory) only results in a ghosted unusable filename in the list
Try using apt-get. Synaptic does not always work properly. (It is a buggy Ubuntu product.)

Last edited by Randicus Draco Albus; 08-29-2014 at 03:10 AM.
 
Old 08-29-2014, 04:01 AM   #13
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The OP has broken packages now, I doubt if it will install, from apt-get or synaptic.
Remove squeeze sources & update.
If trying to install the old version
Just Download the file from page & try to install using gdebi.
 
Old 08-29-2014, 10:40 AM   #14
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Quote:
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I'm using Debian 7.4/64 all updated which I presume makes it like a 7.6
Debian stable is currently Debian 7 wheezy. .4 or .6 or .whatever is irrelevant. Just upgrade the system to get security updates.

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Seamonkey is NOT mozilla
Mozilla suite is discontinued, seamonkey is it's successor since 2005. Mozilla suite/seamonkey are based on the old netscape communicator code base.

Quote:
Originally Posted by badsector View Post
"I" use Seamonkey as my word processor because it's all I need and it works on every system and I have used it as my only word processor for 15 years (Netscape suite before), I still use the old netscape icon for every web-navigator I allow in my house and I DON'T call ANY of them browsers.
How is any of that relevant to the thread/why should anyone care/how will that help solve your problem?

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I tried the seamonkey install every which way I can think of but all I ever get is no-such-file-or-directory or such, even if I 'browse' into the menu the very visible local file in the very visible local folder where I unpacked it.
The method I posted works perfectly if you can be bothered to try it.
 
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Old 08-29-2014, 12:24 PM   #15
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I could've sworn that iceape while not the default File Manager, also acts as a file manager, so, I can understand why the OP thinks of it as such.
 
  


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