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Old 12-12-2008, 03:49 PM   #1
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KDE problem


Hello,
I've installed Debian, I used Slackware, but I've found it hard to work especially with package management. I have removed GNOME, and installed KDE but it is 3.5.5. I want to use KDE 4.1.3 but there is some f*cking cmake which I don't know how to use. And there are no packages .deb, only sources for KDE 4 and 3.5.10. I' using Debian Etch - stable release, just don't know what to do, please, help me.
 
Old 12-12-2008, 03:56 PM   #2
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I do not know where KDE4 sits in the Debian repositories, but I highly suggest you change your /etc/apt/sources.list file, and change any instances of "etch" and "stable" to "lenny".

After that, run an "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" and watch your bandwidth be strapped for a bit.

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Old 12-12-2008, 04:26 PM   #3
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http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.p...747&highlight=

My reply there gives a nice summery of a Lenny KDE and Gnome install with all the bells and whistles.

Of course you can do the same without reinstalling. Once Debian is installed its package management with Aptitude leaves almost anything possible.

You see in the post my sources.list.

aptitude update
aptitude dist-upgrade (later on you'll use full-upgrade, but you have Etch's aptitude which didn't know about full-upgrade yet).

I've heard of problems with full desktops being dist-upgraded regarding the perl packages. If you don't know what to expressly install first if you run into that, downloading the daily debian-installer image and starting over (like I have in that thread) might be easier for you. Some folks expressly upgrade apt, aptitude, dpkg, dpkg-dev before upgrading the rest (just do aptitude reinstall, listing those, and then aptitude update, and aptitude full-upgrade then).

KDE 4 won't hit Debian until the deep freeze is lifted (Lenny released) so new packages can go into unstable. Some folks install it from experimental. Happiness varies.
 
Old 12-13-2008, 05:23 AM   #4
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http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.p...747&highlight=

My reply there gives a nice summery of a Lenny KDE and Gnome install with all the bells and whistles.

Of course you can do the same without reinstalling. Once Debian is installed its package management with Aptitude leaves almost anything possible.

You see in the post my sources.list.

aptitude update
aptitude dist-upgrade (later on you'll use full-upgrade, but you have Etch's aptitude which didn't know about full-upgrade yet).

I've heard of problems with full desktops being dist-upgraded regarding the perl packages. If you don't know what to expressly install first if you run into that, downloading the daily debian-installer image and starting over (like I have in that thread) might be easier for you. Some folks expressly upgrade apt, aptitude, dpkg, dpkg-dev before upgrading the rest (just do aptitude reinstall, listing those, and then aptitude update, and aptitude full-upgrade then).

KDE 4 won't hit Debian until the deep freeze is lifted (Lenny released) so new packages can go into unstable. Some folks install it from experimental. Happiness varies.
So, you suppose I must download Debian Lenny version. I'll test it first on VMWare... Because hard-drive I have is new, and I don't want to crash him with lenny version or what it might be unstable.
 
Old 12-13-2008, 05:41 AM   #5
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Lenny(testing) is stable enough (even unstable is very stable compared to some other popular distros).

KDE 4.1.x backports for Lenny:
http://kde4.debian.net/

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Old 12-13-2008, 05:49 AM   #6
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Lenny(testing) is stable enough (even unstable is very stable compared to some other popular distros).

KDE 4.1.x backports for Lenny:
http://kde4.debian.net/
So, now with the stable release must I change with lenny, or not, or maybe I'll try with VMWare... for sure. And what's this netinst disc. Maybe installs from repositories...

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Old 12-13-2008, 05:57 AM   #7
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So, now with the stable release must I change with lenny, or not
If you want KDE4, yes. (either lenny with those backports or unstable/experimental)
 
Old 12-13-2008, 06:22 AM   #8
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And what's this netinst disc. Maybe installs from repositories...
Yep.
It's by far your best option if you have a fast internet connection.
Just install the base system only and once that's done "aptitude install" xorg and everything else you need.
 
Old 12-13-2008, 08:04 AM   #9
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Yep.
It's by far your best option if you have a fast internet connection.
Just install the base system only and once that's done "aptitude install" xorg and everything else you need.
I'm trying now to install KDE4 under VMWare, but see what it's written in kde4.debian.net

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or full KDE 4 with

aptitude install kde4

This might not work since Lenny is still not a stable release, and some depends might broken. In this case, install one by one the modules you need/want. (kdegraphics, kdenetwork, etc) In the moment of writing these lines, this is broken because kpackage, included in kdeadmin, needs smartpm-core that is out of Lenny
 
Old 12-13-2008, 09:30 AM   #10
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Start with installing "kde4-minimal".

kde4 and kdeadmin are metapackages and will only install if/when all dependencies are available.

Ignore kdeadmin/kpackage for now and "aptitude install" all extra KDE4 modules that you like one by one (you can still install the other 4 kdeadmin packages like this as well).

KDE4 Debian packages:
http://packages.debian.org/experimental/kde4 (these are the ones from experimental, but the names should be the same).

PS: Kpackage is only a frontend for the SMART package manager, you don't really need that on a debian system.

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