Is it possible to install 2.6.29 in Squeeze?

michalng · 06-09-2009, 07:44 AM

I am currently running Squeeze, 2.6.26-2-amd64 and prefer to stay on Squeeze.

As I am going to purchase a new laptop and the models available to me comes with the ATI Radeon HD 3470 video card, I will need to have the 2.6.29 kernel.

Is it possible to install 2.6.29 in Squeeze while not touching Sid or Experimental?

the trooper · 06-09-2009, 08:05 AM

Yes,you can compile the kernel yourself.
I compiled the 2.6.29 kernel on Squeeze,and it works well.
Currently i use the version from Sid,again with no problems.

I think 2.6.30 is not too far away from release as stable also.

http://www.kernel.org/

pliqui · 06-09-2009, 09:03 AM

I like to stay in repos (i'm not so good compiling things

once i tried to compile a version of wine i needed and after 45 min of compiling failed, tried again and 45 min later failed jeje) but perhaps you can have that kernel only from unstable

Here is a link about mixed system from Rickh Howto: Set up and Maintain a Mixed Testing/Unstable System and some tips about pinning Apt-Pinning for Beginners

Hope this help. Cheers

jdkaye · 06-09-2009, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michalng

I am currently running Squeeze, 2.6.26-2-amd64 and prefer to stay on Squeeze.

As I am going to purchase a new laptop and the models available to me comes with the ATI Radeon HD 3470 video card, I will need to have the 2.6.29 kernel.

Is it possible to install 2.6.29 in Squeeze while not touching Sid or Experimental?

Actually, you won't need a 2.6.29 kernel. You can download the proprietary driver for the Radeon HD34xx card here:
http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx

Alternatively, you can install the 2.6.29 kernel in squeeze. I do occasional pinning to unstable so I have both testing and unstable sources in my sources.list file. I give the command

Code:

sudo aptitude install linux-image-2.6.29-2-686

and it will install that kernel image with no complaints. Notice I don't have to do any pinning to accomplish this. You need to manually install headers, etc. since this is not done automatically.
cheers,
jdk

AlucardZero · 06-09-2009, 09:41 AM

Yes. Either you can wait for 2.6.29 to get into Squeeze, or you can compile it yourself, or you can install it from Sid. For the last option you can add unstable to your sources.list and then use apt-pinning so that you always prefer testing but have the option to get packages from unstable when needed. See: http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning

Edit: I just found out that 2.6.29 is in lenny-backports. You can add lenny-backports to sources.list. http://www.backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php

Code:

alucard@organa:~$ apt-cache policy  linux-image-2.6.29-bpo.2-686
linux-image-2.6.29-bpo.2-686:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 2.6.29-5~bpo50+1
  Version table:
     2.6.29-5~bpo50+1 0
        625 http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/main Packages

jdkaye · 06-09-2009, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlucardZero

For the last option you can add unstable to your sources.list and then use apt-pinning so that you always prefer testing but have the option to get packages from unstable when needed. See: http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning

Actually you don't (or I don't for some reason) need to use alt-pinning do get the 2.6.29 kernel. I showed the command I used in my post above which was

Code:

sudo aptitude install linux-image-2.6.29-2-686

and I did not have to use the pinning method shown below.

Code:

sudo aptitude -t unstable install linux-image-2.6.29-2-686

As I said before the pinning was unnecessary. I don't know why it's this way but that's how it is.

cheers,
jdk

the trooper · 06-09-2009, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pliqui

I like to stay in repos (i'm not so good compiling things

once i tried to compile a version of wine i needed and after 45 min of compiling failed, tried again and 45 min later failed jeje) but perhaps you can have that kernel only from unstable

Here is a link about mixed system from Rickh Howto: Set up and Maintain a Mixed Testing/Unstable System and some tips about pinning Apt-Pinning for Beginners

Hope this help. Cheers

Rickh's how-to works for me.
Looks like AlucardZero's suggestion is just what the op is looking for.
Good post!.

AlucardZero · 06-09-2009, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdkaye

As I said before the pinning was unnecessary. I don't know why it's this way but that's how it is.

cheers,
jdk

linux-image-2.6.29-2-686 is not in testing, therefore it pulls it from unstable. If unstable were not in your sources.list then it would not be found.

The pinning is to prefer testing over unstable so that he doesn't start running unstable accidentally. Without telling apt to prefer testing over unstable, it will just get the highest-version package.

Also, my previous advice about lenny-backports is probably bad; I got muddled and was thinking 'lenny' when I edited.

the trooper · 06-09-2009, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Also, my previous advice about lenny-backports is probably bad; I got muddled and was thinking 'lenny' when I edited

Yep,me too......Still think of Lenny as Testing

So just to reiterate:

Quote:

wait for 2.6.29 to get into Squeeze, or you can compile it yourself, or you can install it from Sid

michalng · 06-09-2009, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlucardZero

Yes. Either you can wait for 2.6.29 to get into Squeeze, or you can compile it yourself, or you can install it from Sid. For the last option you can add unstable to your sources.list and then use apt-pinning so that you always prefer testing but have the option to get packages from unstable when needed. See: http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning

Edit: I just found out that 2.6.29 is in lenny-backports. You can add lenny-backports to sources.list. http://www.backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php

Code:

alucard@organa:~$ apt-cache policy  linux-image-2.6.29-bpo.2-686
linux-image-2.6.29-bpo.2-686:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 2.6.29-5~bpo50+1
  Version table:
     2.6.29-5~bpo50+1 0
        625 http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/main Packages

Just for education'sake -
Backports sounds interesting but have never tried before.
But do not really understand what backport is about

Will probably try pinning as I've tried it previously and should be able to do it again.

Thanks all for advise.

the trooper · 06-10-2009, 11:46 AM

Quote:

But do not really understand what backport is about

Here's a quote from their website:

Quote:

You are running Debian stable, because you prefer the stable Debian tree. It runs great, there is just one problem: the software is a little bit outdated compared to other distributions. That is where backports come in.

Backports are recompiled packages from testing (mostly) and unstable (in a few cases only, e.g. security updates), so they will run without new libraries (wherever it is possible) on a stable Debian distribution

.

As you are running Testing,probably not relevant.
Have a read through rickh's how-to for running a mixed system.Recommended reading.