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Old 01-03-2005, 12:32 PM   #1
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Exclamation Installing a CLEAN Debian System questions


Hello folks..

I wanna install a clean Debian system on my desktop. (not sure if Debian is the right choice for me)

I have Sarge Unstable ( is it called Sid? ) installed right now with millions of packages installed and it works perfectly so far.. Only the thing I cant see my windows NTFS-partition.

But my intention to use Linux is:

1: To run KDE desktop invironment. WITHOUT an ugly loginscreen from Gnome.
2: Construct a homepage with PHP5/Apache/MySQL.
3: Keep my computer safe with Anti-virus/spam, firewall and so on.
4: Kopete Instant Messenger, Xine DVD, K3b, Koffice, Kmail, Mozilla Firefox if possible.
5: Support of NTFS-partitions from Microsoft Windows unless I can convert it to another filesystem linux can take care of if it's possible .!?

I wanna have a clean system with just the files/packages installed JUST to make these 5 intentions work, so my question is....


can I just install the packages I need to have so it can just run these applications ? and can somebody help me with it ? to tell wich I need and so on.

Is Debian the right choice to fulfil my needs ??. (I love the apt-get thing though)

hope someone can help me..

------->> Terfy <<-------

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Old 01-03-2005, 12:37 PM   #2
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by the way..

By the way... I wanna have large resolutions (1280x1024 or/and bigger)

tried change the resolutions in XF86Config-4 in my present system, but didn't help much..

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Old 01-03-2005, 12:53 PM   #3
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First of all, I aint a Debian pro, I am right now using Slackware but I still know a thing or two about a thing or two =D.
I would strongly recommend "the potato project" since it is very stable and have lots of features that other distros doesnt have. For example Debian is the distro that is the closest one to a windows system and it isnt as advanced as Slackware or as unstable as SuSE.

1. The Debian installation will ask you wich GIU you want, just chose KDE.
The gnome login screen can be exchanged with a KDE login screen in the KDE control panel.

2. Dont know anything about homepages but I know that Apache is included in Debian.

3. Theres some Firewalls and Antivirus progs for Linux platforms, search for it on google.

4. Any KDE program will be included like Xine, XMMS and so on. Mozilla Firefox? ofcourse =D.

5. Yes Debian supports NTFS. There are lots of guides on howto do this, search for it on google.


Hope some of this helped ya out.
 
Old 01-03-2005, 12:57 PM   #4
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The resolutin thing shouldnt be a problem since I use the exact same resolution on my system.
If I remember right (it was a long time since I messed with the X conf) you should type in something like: "xconfig" or "xfsconfig". Dont remember but I know it works.
The only problem that MAY accure is that your graphics card maybe cant handle such big resolutions ?
What graphic card do you have ?
 
Old 01-03-2005, 01:13 PM   #5
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Originally posted by roAder
The resolutin thing shouldnt be a problem since I use the exact same resolution on my system.
If I remember right (it was a long time since I messed with the X conf) you should type in something like: "xconfig" or "xfsconfig". Dont remember but I know it works.
The only problem that MAY accure is that your graphics card maybe cant handle such big resolutions ?
What graphic card do you have ?
I have Nvidia GeForce MX440se and use to run at 1280x1024 on windows, it can go up to 19XXx16XX on my monitor in windows.

but here in linux the max I can choose is 800x600..

tried type xconfig and xfsconfig in shell, nothing happened. like it aint existing..
 
Old 01-03-2005, 01:30 PM   #6
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ok, if you have that graphic card you WILL be able to have that resolution.
When you reconfigure your X, you have to quit any existing X session.
Then you log in as root and typ Xfs86config (im not sure, search with google) and configure ALL OF THE AVAIBLE SETTINGS.
 
Old 01-03-2005, 02:18 PM   #7
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I try reinstall the whole system.. thanks anyway.. nothing works for me when I supposed to change settings..
 
Old 01-04-2005, 02:51 AM   #8
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If you re-install, try using the net installer - it's very friendly.

After X has been installed you'll get the chance to select your screen configuration (read the installer instructions as you go - you will be asked to choose between 3 modes of configuration less detailed -> most detailed...).

To re-configure your resolution, do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (if you havn't re-installed yet, try doing this first).

NTFS - do you have a dual boot, and want access from linux to your WinXP/NT NTFS file-system? If yes then I think you should look at your /etc/fstab file in which you'll find the mount rules for your system. It's also possible to mount only for current session using the mount command. Try man mount for an explanation of mount and NTFS.

Don't know if a full debian install will give you LAMP.
What has worked best for me is to say no when asked to choose packages for installations (you get to choose "desktop environment", "servers" etc... I selected none of these), and then to apt-get what you really need.
apt-get update
apt-get x-window-system
apt-get kde
Now have a look at this thread on Debian post install (by macondo): http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...hreadid=224547

For LAMP - google for a tutorial on how to install. As I remember you should first apt-get Apache and MySql and then Apt-get php, but there are some configuration to be done on the way - search for it.

As said, this way of installing Debian worked for me, but it involves more tweaking post installation - you must be aware of that...

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Old 01-04-2005, 04:04 AM   #9
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with your resolution, you actually have to edit your xf86config file manually. (go to /etc/X11/XF86config) Its not very hard. All you have to do is scroll down to the section that says display and you should see "800x600" and any other resolutions that you chose during the install. Then just add the resolution that you want ie "1280x1024" then restart x, or reboot. If you have already done this then I dont know whats wrong. I added "1400x1050" to mine and rebooted and then changed the res in kde and it worked ok.

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Old 01-05-2005, 10:50 AM   #10
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thanks..

I'll try the net-installer.. but wich is the best ? I can see that there is more than one of them..


I can only change files/directories when I'm logged in as root..
as my user I can only change in my home directory..

I tried log in as root and change /etc/X11/XF86config but it didn't work at all.. It was changed after my visit, but nothing has changed in my screensize choices..


terfy..
 
Old 01-05-2005, 02:32 PM   #11
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The file to edit is XF86config-4.
Did you try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (as root)? This will make changes to the above file...
Don't login as root. While logged in as user (you) just open up a terminal command line and type: su (= super user) and press enter. Now type the root password and press enter again (you probabely know all this - sorry ;-)).
Now you have root privileges, so type: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86

Net installer for sarge (= Debian testing) found here: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
Choose "i386" under "netinst CD image, with Debian base"
 
Old 01-05-2005, 06:33 PM   #12
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I don't know that many commands in debian yet, but workin on it.

I'l try that as soon I get a new CPU in the machine..
(that'll be tomorrow thursday)

It's soon my birthday and hope I get some linux-books
(made a looong list to the whole family. hehe)


I'm a totally newbie to linux, worked with it for 1week at most right now and is of'cause proceeding in the knowlage about linux..
I love the thing not to be busted when the police take a razia now and then more and more often..

and if you all can't understand my english, then I'm totally sorry for that..
 
Old 01-06-2005, 01:40 AM   #13
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For the resolution problems, make sure that you have the horizontal and vertical syncs set correctly for your monitor in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 - if it has put in a "safe default" the syncs are probably too low for higher resolutions, which require the beam to move faster accross the screen. If it is playing safe and staying in a lower scan/sync rate, it would have to stay in lower resolutions.
 
Old 01-06-2005, 04:14 AM   #14
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Originally posted by BrianHenderson
For the resolution problems, make sure that you have the horizontal and vertical syncs set correctly for your monitor in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 - if it has put in a "safe default" the syncs are probably too low for higher resolutions, which require the beam to move faster accross the screen. If it is playing safe and staying in a lower scan/sync rate, it would have to stay in lower resolutions.
Okay, maybe that is the problem., I remember at the beginning I choosed advanced settings for graphic card, then I should type in horizontal and vertical syncs, and I didn't know that it was default numbers wich appeared automatically..

then I simply don't know the settings for my monitor..
Its a 17" old hitachi 17mvx plus


terfy..
 
Old 01-06-2005, 04:43 AM   #15
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I've just tested the xdebconfigurator tool that helps to create X configuration and it worked quite well. Here's what you need to do:
# apt-get install xdebconfigurator
# xdebconfigurator
# dexconf
And that's it, now you're ready to start X.
 
  


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