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Old 12-08-2011, 02:10 PM   #16
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Browsers allow you to set fonts. Configure them. They probably have still the default linux fonts set, hence you seeing them. The font of the text under images is "Lucida Sans Unicode" (hardcoded in css).Either install it (rebuilding hints and stuff) or set a substitution font in browser.
Thanks, interesting. I'll give it a shot. First time something really sensible.

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As for your desktop, it looked like GNOME 2, but Squeeze holds now GNOME 3 right? That's why I asked for it. My screenshot is KDE 3.5.10 under Debian Lenny. I'm messing with Trinity right now. I won't install Linux in other machine than VirtualBox until it's ready. They are almost there, but there are still bugs to be fixed. They need moar manpower.
Yes, it IS Gnome 2.30, and no, Squeeze has never used Gnome 3 and not going to even. You simply cannot install Gnome 3 on Squeeze. Only testing ("Wheezy") is using Gnome 3 and maybe Sid.. but i'm not sure. As for Trinity..yeah, their latest release is really buggy, i've tried it... bummer. By the way, i wish i could install Lenny too with KDE3.5. But i can't, tried it, it didn't recognize my LAN and installation didn't begin..
 
Old 12-08-2011, 02:29 PM   #17
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Thank you for the information on your hardware and drivers.

I believe that you can count on that particular ati card to do the job for you.

I found that a number of other font sets are helpful in getting your font to render as you want them. You might want to explore that.

What is in your /etc/apt/sources.list?
 
Old 12-08-2011, 02:31 PM   #18
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What is in your /etc/apt/sources.list?
# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.3 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 CD Binary-1 20111008-14:36]/ squeeze main

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.3 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 CD Binary-1 20111008-14:36]/ squeeze main

deb http://debian.md/debian/ squeeze contrib non-free main

deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates contrib non-free main

# squeeze-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
deb http://debian.md/debian/ squeeze-updates main
deb http://debian.md/debian/ squeeze-proposed-updates contrib non-free main
deb-src http://debian.md/debian/ squeeze-updates main
deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ squeeze-backports iceweasel-3.6
deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ squeeze main non-free
deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports/ squeeze-backports main
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/ppa/ubuntu lucid main


Pater, by the way man.. i've done all you described above with that defoma thing of yours... didn't change a THING. I installed lucida too.. several types of it. Then did all the lines, everything went ok, no errors. But no alteration either. Nothing.

And yeah, i've tried to substitute fonts in Iceweasel... not much success. I mean it worked, but Lucida Unicode looks totally different from what is really shown there.. and still, it's blurry too.

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Old 12-08-2011, 02:40 PM   #19
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Pater, by the way man.. i've done all you described above with that defoma thing of yours... didn't change a THING. I installed lucida too.. several types of it. Then did all the lines, everything went ok, no errors. But no alteration either. Nothing.

And yeah, i've tried to substitute fonts in Iceweasel... not much success. I mean it worked, but Lucida Unicode looks totally different from what is really shown there.. and still, it's blurry too.
Can your user read the font files? Double check it.
 
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Can your user read the font files? Double check it.
I don't know exactly what you mean by that... but i can open the files yeah, i can see their previews and press "install" button. That's what i did actually.
 
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I don't know exactly what you mean by that... but i can open the files yeah, i can see their previews and press "install" button. That's what i did actually.
Post "ls -l" output of the directory you copied the fonts to. Are you working as root?
 
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Post "ls -l" output of the directory you copied the fonts to. Are you working as root?
hm... /usr/share/fonts is empty now... or maybe it's been empty always.. i dunno, now i'm really confused.


Found those here: /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 105468 Nov 12 1998 Andale_Mono.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Dec 8 15:49 andalemo.ttf -> Andale_Mono.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 Dec 8 15:49 arialbd.ttf -> Arial_Bold.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Dec 8 15:49 arialbi.ttf -> Arial_Bold_Italic.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 117028 Nov 10 1998 Arial_Black.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 224692 May 11 2000 Arial_Bold_Italic.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 286620 May 11 2000 Arial_Bold.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 206132 May 11 2000 Arial_Italic.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 Dec 8 15:49 ariali.ttf -> Arial_Italic.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Dec 8 15:49 arial.ttf -> Arial.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 275572 May 11 2000 Arial.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Dec 8 15:49 ariblk.ttf -> Arial_Black.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 Dec 8 15:49 comicbd.ttf -> Comic_Sans_MS_Bold.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 111476 Nov 10 1998 Comic_Sans_MS_Bold.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 126364 Nov 10 1998 Comic_Sans_MS.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Dec 8 15:49 comic.ttf -> Comic_Sans_MS.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Dec 8 15:49 courbd.ttf -> Courier_New_Bold.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 27 Dec 8 15:49 courbi.ttf -> Courier_New_Bold_Italic.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234788 May 11 2000 Courier_New_Bold_Italic.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 311508 May 11 2000 Courier_New_Bold.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 244156 May 11 2000 Courier_New_Italic.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 302688 May 11 2000 Courier_New.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 Dec 8 15:49 couri.ttf -> Courier_New_Italic.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Dec 8 15:49 cour.ttf -> Courier_New.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 158796 Nov 10 1998 Georgia_Bold_Italic.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 139584 Nov 10 1998 Georgia_Bold.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 Dec 8 15:49 georgiab.ttf -> Georgia_Bold.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 156668 Nov 10 1998 Georgia_Italic.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Dec 8 15:49 georgiai.ttf -> Georgia_Italic.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 Dec 8 15:49 georgia.ttf -> Georgia.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 142964 Nov 10 1998 Georgia.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 Dec 8 15:49 georgiaz.ttf -> Georgia_Bold_Italic.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Dec 8 15:49 impact.ttf -> Impact.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 136076 Nov 10 1998 Impact.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 Dec 8 15:49 timesbd.ttf -> Times_New_Roman_Bold.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 Dec 8 15:49 timesbi.ttf -> Times_New_Roman_Bold_Italic.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Dec 8 15:49 timesi.ttf -> Times_New_Roman_Italic.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 238612 May 11 2000 Times_New_Roman_Bold_Italic.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 333900 May 11 2000 Times_New_Roman_Bold.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 247092 May 11 2000 Times_New_Roman_Italic.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 330412 May 11 2000 Times_New_Roman.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 Dec 8 15:49 times.ttf -> Times_New_Roman.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Dec 8 15:49 trebucbd.ttf -> Trebuchet_MS_Bold.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 28 Dec 8 15:49 trebucbi.ttf -> Trebuchet_MS_Bold_Italic.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 131188 Apr 9 2001 Trebuchet_MS_Bold_Italic.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 123828 Apr 9 2001 Trebuchet_MS_Bold.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 139288 Apr 9 2001 Trebuchet_MS_Italic.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 126796 Apr 9 2001 Trebuchet_MS.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 Dec 8 15:49 trebucit.ttf -> Trebuchet_MS_Italic.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 Dec 8 15:49 trebuc.ttf -> Trebuchet_MS.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 153324 Nov 12 1998 Verdana_Bold_Italic.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 136032 Nov 12 1998 Verdana_Bold.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 Dec 8 15:49 verdanab.ttf -> Verdana_Bold.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 154264 Nov 12 1998 Verdana_Italic.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Dec 8 15:49 verdanai.ttf -> Verdana_Italic.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 Dec 8 15:49 verdana.ttf -> Verdana.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 139640 Nov 12 1998 Verdana.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 Dec 8 15:49 verdanaz.ttf -> Verdana_Bold_Italic.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Dec 8 15:49 webdings.ttf -> Webdings.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 118752 Jul 10 1998 Webdings.ttf

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Old 12-08-2011, 03:01 PM   #23
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hm... /usr/share/fonts is empty now... or maybe it's been empty always.. i dunno, now i'm really confused.


Found those here: /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 105468 Nov 12 1998 Andale_Mono.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Dec 8 15:49 andalemo.ttf -> Andale_Mono.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 Dec 8 15:49 arialbd.ttf -> Arial_Bold.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Dec 8 15:49 arialbi.ttf -> Arial_Bold_Italic.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 117028 Nov 10 1998 Arial_Black.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 224692 May 11 2000 Arial_Bold_Italic.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 286620 May 11 2000 Arial_Bold.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 206132 May 11 2000 Arial_Italic.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 Dec 8 15:49 ariali.ttf -> Arial_Italic.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Dec 8 15:49 arial.ttf -> Arial.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 275572 May 11 2000 Arial.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Dec 8 15:49 ariblk.ttf -> Arial_Black.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 Dec 8 15:49 comicbd.ttf -> Comic_Sans_MS_Bold.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 111476 Nov 10 1998 Comic_Sans_MS_Bold.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 126364 Nov 10 1998 Comic_Sans_MS.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Dec 8 15:49 comic.ttf -> Comic_Sans_MS.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Dec 8 15:49 courbd.ttf -> Courier_New_Bold.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 27 Dec 8 15:49 courbi.ttf -> Courier_New_Bold_Italic.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234788 May 11 2000 Courier_New_Bold_Italic.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 311508 May 11 2000 Courier_New_Bold.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 244156 May 11 2000 Courier_New_Italic.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 302688 May 11 2000 Courier_New.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 Dec 8 15:49 couri.ttf -> Courier_New_Italic.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Dec 8 15:49 cour.ttf -> Courier_New.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 158796 Nov 10 1998 Georgia_Bold_Italic.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 139584 Nov 10 1998 Georgia_Bold.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 Dec 8 15:49 georgiab.ttf -> Georgia_Bold.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 156668 Nov 10 1998 Georgia_Italic.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Dec 8 15:49 georgiai.ttf -> Georgia_Italic.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 Dec 8 15:49 georgia.ttf -> Georgia.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 142964 Nov 10 1998 Georgia.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 Dec 8 15:49 georgiaz.ttf -> Georgia_Bold_Italic.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Dec 8 15:49 impact.ttf -> Impact.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 136076 Nov 10 1998 Impact.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 Dec 8 15:49 timesbd.ttf -> Times_New_Roman_Bold.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 Dec 8 15:49 timesbi.ttf -> Times_New_Roman_Bold_Italic.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Dec 8 15:49 timesi.ttf -> Times_New_Roman_Italic.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 238612 May 11 2000 Times_New_Roman_Bold_Italic.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 333900 May 11 2000 Times_New_Roman_Bold.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 247092 May 11 2000 Times_New_Roman_Italic.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 330412 May 11 2000 Times_New_Roman.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 Dec 8 15:49 times.ttf -> Times_New_Roman.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Dec 8 15:49 trebucbd.ttf -> Trebuchet_MS_Bold.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 28 Dec 8 15:49 trebucbi.ttf -> Trebuchet_MS_Bold_Italic.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 131188 Apr 9 2001 Trebuchet_MS_Bold_Italic.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 123828 Apr 9 2001 Trebuchet_MS_Bold.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 139288 Apr 9 2001 Trebuchet_MS_Italic.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 126796 Apr 9 2001 Trebuchet_MS.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 Dec 8 15:49 trebucit.ttf -> Trebuchet_MS_Italic.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 Dec 8 15:49 trebuc.ttf -> Trebuchet_MS.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 153324 Nov 12 1998 Verdana_Bold_Italic.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 136032 Nov 12 1998 Verdana_Bold.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 Dec 8 15:49 verdanab.ttf -> Verdana_Bold.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 154264 Nov 12 1998 Verdana_Italic.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Dec 8 15:49 verdanai.ttf -> Verdana_Italic.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 Dec 8 15:49 verdana.ttf -> Verdana.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 139640 Nov 12 1998 Verdana.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 Dec 8 15:49 verdanaz.ttf -> Verdana_Bold_Italic.ttf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Dec 8 15:49 webdings.ttf -> Webdings.ttf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 118752 Jul 10 1998 Webdings.ttf
Permissions are OK. Have you restarted your X server?
 
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Permissions are OK. Have you restarted your X server?
yeah... it's just the same.. maybe it works only for Lenny, i dunno.
 
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You should be pulling in anything you need with that sources.list.

It is important to check that, particularly in Debian. That is why there is a sticky thread dedicated to the sources.list.

It seems strange to me that you are having this problem.

When you tried the higher resolution did you resize your fonts to a comfortable size?

I am including a screenshot. If they look blurry on your screen then I think the problem may lay with your monitor or its settings as there is no blur here or in the screenshot on my monitor (17" dell 1440x900) and I am using a poorly supported, on any platform, Radeon HD 2400 PRO and using the fglrx-driver and fglrx-control.

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Hm..

Well, it looks ok to me (not counting the whole pic's blur), fonts are rendered ok... BUT... those might be ok by my side too.. like i said, not all fonts are smudged, only SOME. Arial for sure, and some others...

I thank you for assistance, seems like you're really trying to help, i appreciate that.
 
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I've had a charter display problem for about a month and yesterday decided to see if I could fix this minor problem on Squeeze, Sid and SalineOS render symbols correctly. Anyways during my Google search I came across this exact thread at least 4 times with a lot of responses being the same as here.


Troll? Maybe? Confused? For Sure!
The thread at Debian has already been locked, because, "Locking thread, as the OP has used profanity multiple times, insulted other users and comes across as a troll." And no one has bothered answering at LinuxForums.com.
I am actually amazed at the number of useful suggestions offered on this forum and that neither these nor the ones at Debian can solve the truly unique problem Dron/Moebius/etc. has.
He insists he is not a troll, but does a lot of complaining about a problem no one else seems to have; rejects all suggestions, claiming they do not work; and ridicules people who ask for more information about his hardware or do not understand his unique problem.
? ? ?
Troll? Problably? Confused? For Sure!

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Well, I am at the end of my string. Don't even remember what Arial is supposed to look like.

I do know that using font designed for another platform is going to be tricky.

The only thing I can suggest is going to synaptic and doing a search for arial. I just did and got quite a bunch of stuff. The only thing there that I really know is "fonts-liberation". I use those fonts. Arial is supposed to be included but I deleted a lot of font files.

I installed this as Squeeze (then the testing branch) to replace Ubuntu. I think I installed about any package that had fonts that were "normal" looking. Found the ones that worked best and then had lots that I would never use but showed up on the list all the time. Went through and just deleted the ones I knew I would not use and removed a bunch of the packages that had nothing I wanted.

So I do not know how Liberation Arial would work here let alone on your hardware.

If Arial is what you want I would try to find a FOSS version of it and try that. May work better.
 
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The thread at Debian has already been locked, because, "Locking thread, as the OP has used profanity multiple times, insulted other users and comes across as a troll." And no one has bothered answering at LinuxForums.com.
I am actually amazed at the number of useful suggestions offered on this forum and that neither these nor the ones at Debian can solve the truly unique problem Dron/Moebius/etc. has.
He insists he is not a troll, but does a lot of complaining about a problem no one else seems to have; rejects all suggestions, claiming they do not work; and ridicules people who ask for more information about his hardware or do not understand his unique problem.
? ? ?
Troll? Problably? Confused? For Sure!
Listen you... you got nothing to do or what? What's your f..ng problem? Weren't you lazy to write all this goddamn tripe? Just look at what you're saying dude, you're the one that seems to act trollish, not me! As for that guy, i didn't expect he'd act nice actually, so i can apologize to him now. 'cause most of the time i get such dorks like yourself on my way! Where do you people shit yourselves from? Why don't you just get a life or something, i dunno..? And for your information, most of the stuff didn't work, yeah! Me and my f..ng unique problem! I wish i could get your ass right over here so you could see it, then i'd make you do all that shit and when you finally admit it and i'd punch you right in your stupid face! How about that, huh? Jesus f..ng Christ... yeah, 'cause there's no solution, only endless howabouts and trythis and trythats! And even so i can respect and appreciate someone's efforts to help me instead of that shit which you just took right here which serves no practical purpose, only amusement of individual kind, which is what you're doing. In other words it just stinks but does no good to anyone.I dunno why you people find my posts funny, but i guess it's only your problem. Apparently some limited range predisposition based on narrow stereotypes. I see, even in China they already think "west". Bad for you. Anyway, no pasaran! Trolls won't get ya, sleep well.

Widget, thank you for all sir. Now i won't bother you again and try to solve things myself. I kinda don't feel like going on about this.. these people just have issues dealing with overly "eccentric" individuals such as myself. If something seems weird to them it's likely but one thing - troll. And hereby i conclude this discussion with a hard period.

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Old 12-09-2011, 09:28 AM   #30
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For SURE, not a troll. And please, would you mind not saying this word even? I'm really getting tired of this. All i'm trying to do is to find a PARTICULAR solution to this and i want as many opinions and methods as possible. And yes, i even appreciate replies like "No, you can't do that", like one guy has already done. I really like that short but clear statement.
Are you after statements or a solution? I used google with several key words and phrases and found what I needed but you have wasted bandwidth with the same question and almost the same answers on several sites. At some point in your life you have to stop asking and start doing. As pointed out to you on other sites raise your resolution, if you don't know how then ask.

Post the exact same question on six different sites and doing nothing is not going to solve the problem.
 
  


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