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how: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
how, take 2: gksu synaptic, C-r, C-g, C-p
when: when it's ready, of course
that's the debian policy. Of course, you could move one step up the instability ladder, unless you already are at the top
I do an update - upgrade everyday. I don't understand what that other 'how' does? I tried running that line and it just says '/usr/bin/env: synaptic,: No such file or directory'
I guess we have to wait till the Debian people release Gnome 2.10 on the servers then? That'll probably be a while.
Compile from source or use garnome, hich can play along nicely with your current gnome version. I compiled it from Source on Slack 10, its really cool, I have not had any major show stoppers so far.
Read somewhere that Gnome 2.10 isn't going to be released with sarge which is supposed to become "stable" soon (don't know how soon is soon).
Next "Unstable" branch will have the 2.10 version.
--I kinda' figured that since you want Gnome, you must be `a gui person'.
That is a very broad assumption to make about someone-- because they want to use gnome. Are you implying that because you run a desktop environment that you dont know how to use the command line. Yes there are linux users and linux geeks, but the less we try and segregate the two, the better off we will be. Everyone wants linux to be the os of choice, but when you come out with comments like that, then no wonder people feel they may as well go back to windows if you make them feel less worthy for using gui's to configure there computer.
I only bought my first computer two years ago. It came with xp installed. I played with it and heard about linux. So, I installed fedora core 1, then I read about debian so I installed it. I run KDE as my desktop, (personely I dont like gnome, and like kde for a couple of features it has over gnome) but still use the command line to do lots of things. Its all a matter of choice and what you want to learn or experiment with. Besides I have 512Mb of ram, why waste it. Sorry for the rant, but its late here and i've had maybe three too many beers.
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that is a very broad assumption to make about someone-- because they want to use gnome. Are you implying that because you run a desktop environment that you dont know how to use the command line. Yes there are linux users and linux geeks, but the less we try and segregate the two, the better off we will be. Everyone wants linux to be the os of choice, but when you come out with comments like that, then no wonder people feel they may as well go back to windows if you make them feel less worthy for using gui's to configure there computer.
agreed....if linux is a hands on OS, you must get it installed properly before the learning process begins...
I've been running my Debian (CLI only) server for two years. I'm no stranger to the command line. Although, this doesn't mean I know every command.
And yes I'm also a "Gui" person. I like looking at pretty things and setting up my desktop the way I like it. It's half the fun of running Linux. I also play many FPS games. I'm pretty sure you need a DE to do that.
However, in order to "setup" the OS to your liking, you do need to know some commands. There is never a day when I use my computer that I don't need to open a bash prompt for some reason or another. This is both a blessing and a curse for Linux in general. In one hand it gives you complete freedom to mess with, configure, and probably break (this is where LQ.org comes in) your OS. On the other hand, it scares new users away.
I'm not sure where I'm going with this, but just wanted to make that point.
I downloaded the Gnome 2.10 Live CD last night, so I'm going to give that a go and check it out.
Originally posted by short101 That is a very broad assumption to make about someone-- because they want to use gnome. Are you implying that because you run a desktop environment that you dont know how to use the command line. Yes there are linux users and linux geeks, but the less we try and segregate the two, the better off we will be. Everyone wants linux to be the os of choice, but when you come out with comments like that, then no wonder people feel they may as well go back to windows if you make them feel less worthy for using gui's to configure there computer.
I only bought my first computer two years ago. It came with xp installed. I played with it and heard about linux. So, I installed fedora core 1, then I read about debian so I installed it. I run KDE as my desktop, (personely I dont like gnome, and like kde for a couple of features it has over gnome) but still use the command line to do lots of things. Its all a matter of choice and what you want to learn or experiment with. Besides I have 512Mb of ram, why waste it. Sorry for the rant, but its late here and i've had maybe three too many beers.
I've just installed gnome 2.10, kde 3.4 and X.org on debian sid by using the ubuntu/kubuntu sources instead of the normal unstable ones.
Everything is running fine and the new gnome seems much faster to me even when running shadows and transparency.
The big problem of course is upgrades so I use 2 sources.list's.
I run apt-get update with the debian one everyday and do all upgrades not relating to kde, gnome or xorg, I then switch to the ubuntu one and apt-get update again then just upgrade the kde gnome related stuff.
It's a bit messy and and dist-upgrade obviously isn't going to work but I'm happy doing it like this until those packages are added to unstable then I can run pure sid again.
Incidentally, is being called a gui person really an insult? Some people prefer command line and some people, like me, prefer to have big colourful icons and windows to look at.
He may have assumed you were a gui person because you want gnome but it doesn't necassarily mean he was dissing you.
Last edited by fannymites; 03-23-2005 at 10:05 AM.
One of the things I like about Debian is the wait.
Every week or so I do apt-get dist-upgrade and love being surprised by new app versions that went into sarge. It's like waiting for your birthday presents
So I'm not running after Gnome 2.10 - It will come when it is ripe...
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