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Old 12-26-2018, 04:09 PM   #1
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YouTube videos not playing on Bodhi-5.0.0-64 & midori 0.5.11


I have a fresh install of bodhi-5.0.0-64 and the builtin browser, midori, is not playing YouTube videos. I checked if flash was working by visiting a page which uses flash, https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player.html, and flash was not working on that page.

Should midori with bodhi-5.0.0-64 play YouTube videos?

If not any suggestions on the best browser to use in Bodhi when wanting to conserve resources?

I primarily want to use this for watching YouTube and Comast Cable videos, streaming Shoutcast music stations, doing some google searches, and checking email.

Thanks!

Last edited by luvbodhi; 12-26-2018 at 04:10 PM.
 
Old 12-27-2018, 10:18 AM   #2
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I use Chromium on an ACER Cloudbook and everything works fine. I'm not sure, however, about the "conserving resources" part. What are your limitations?
 
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Old 12-27-2018, 11:54 AM   #3
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Hello there

I can be wrong but I think the problem is with old Midori we have in our repository. The Midori project stuck for more than year and nobody knew if survive. Today I have learned the project starts to continue with Midori 7 revision. So far I can not see it possible to install via deb package thus need to install from source and test. Then we can add the package to the testing repository for users testing.

Stefan

https://www.midori-browser.org/

EDIT: just made youtube audio tracks working:
sudo apt-get install gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad

Still no video here

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Old 12-27-2018, 12:06 PM   #4
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Thanks rrashkin,

I have a toshiba cl45 which has 2GB RAM/32GB eMMC/Celeron N2840 processor with Dual Core, 2.16 GHz, up to 2.58 GHz Turbo. It was a 2015 Black Friday impulse buy ~ $115. It came with Windows 10 which worked except for somewhat laggy YouTube video and eventually not enough storage for the Windows 10 updates.
 
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Old 12-27-2018, 12:33 PM   #5
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Hello again

Just installed Midori v7 via snap for testing purposes and yes, YT is working now

Stefan

EDIT: oops, another track should play and it does not Hmm

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Old 12-27-2018, 02:13 PM   #6
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Thanks the_waiter,

Yeah. The version of midori in Bodhi-5.0.0-64, version 0.5.11, is quite old as I'm guessing version 7 is 7.0.

I tried installing Firefox using Bodhi's AppCenter and YouTube videos worked. I'm not tied to midori but was looking for the most light weight browser which could play YouTube videos with as little lag as possible.

Do you have a recommendation for a browser which consumes the least resources while still allowing for the playback of YouTube videos?

I noticed you're a Bodhi developer. I just installed Bodhi and as my notebook does not have an RJ45 port and the NIC is Broadcom I had a really tough time getting this to connect to the Internet. Many notebooks like mine don't have RJ45 ports and were originally Win10 notebooks with only 32GB of eMMC storage and can no longer be updated with the latest Windows 10 OS due to limited storage. It would be great to include a walk through in the Bodhi QuickStart showing how to get this NIC to work.

Below is a link to a post where I worked with Brains to sync my Bodhi-5.0.0-64 VM to my Bodhi-5.0.0-64 notebook.

[[E D I T]]] [[I tried reinstalling Bodhi-5.0.0-64 on the notebook to test the synch method described in the apt-get-alternative-which-works-offline-4175644901 URL below. It did not work. I must have performed some other action to get networking to work. After working with this for a while I found I just needed to install bcmwl-kernel-source_6.30.223.271+bdcom-0ubuntu4_amd64.deb and all of its dependencies. Details are here: https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...php?p=5942919]

Many would probably just discard a notebook like mine before installing VirtualBox, creating a VM, and syncing the VM to their notebook but a simpler option exists. If the Bodhi QuickStart page could have a section on cheap USB NICs which are baked into the Bodhi OS for gaining Internet connectivity along with instructions on installing Broadcom drivers that would make for a much simpler install. Here is the link on syncing the Bodhi VM and Bodhi notebook:

https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...901/page2.html

Last edited by luvbodhi; 12-30-2018 at 07:27 PM.
 
Old 12-27-2018, 02:43 PM   #7
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OK

I like you are not tied to Midori. It was always pretty buggy browser which is default in Bodhi distro just for the fact of being minimalistic. The first thing I always do after installing BL is taking much better browser like FF of Google Chrome. Of course for some minimal HW available none of these browsers are light. Unfortunately the YT performance in Midori won't be great. In this case I can recommend SW like smtube or minitube. You will see how fluent perfomance you will get Anyway, looking at your HW specs, you should be able to run YT on Chrome without glitches.

Your second question was related to NIC card. Hmm, I have never faced this issue before. Buying the USB to NIC card adapter seems to be the best idea how to make it work. Here in Slovakia costs 9 €. Our Bodhi manuals and quickstarts were always little pain. We had some guys in the past who took care of it. I am not sure if Oblio user is around to have a look. I think we lost some guys after closing our old forum related to GDPR policy. Sorry I am more a coder/theme_fixer than manual writer. Also, English is not my mother tongue

Stefan

Last edited by the_waiter; 12-27-2018 at 02:45 PM.
 
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Old 12-27-2018, 11:59 PM   #8
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Thanks Stefan,

From a performance standpoint do you choose Chromium/FireFox/Google Chrome when installing a new BL instance?

I grabbed Chrome from the google website and FireFox from the Bodhi AppCenter. From very limited testing it seems FireFox might be a bit less laggy for YouTube videos. Using these commands I found both Google Chrome and FireFox both used about 600MB of memory to view cnn.com:

smem -t -k -c pss -P chrom | tail -n 1
smem -t -k -c pss -P firefox | tail -n 1

I tried using Exterminator but it does not create a process tree like I'm used to with Windows 10 task manager.

Regarding NICs do you know which USB NICs are supported by the Bodhi ISO?

[[E D I T]] [I have not verified this but a user suggested this model - TP Link TL-WN722N version 1 referenced here: https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...php?p=5942919] I found a Linksys AE2500 USB NIC I used on a Windows desktop but it is not recognized by the Bodhi notebook]

I found this command:

find /lib/modules/`uname -r` -name "*usb*"

I think it produces the drivers built into the ISO but not for sure. It produces a list of .ko files and several are in this path:

/lib/modules/4.15.0-20-generic/kernel/drivers/net/

I'm just not for sure how to identify the NIC hardware using these drivers. Here is a list of the ./net section:

/lib/modules/4.15.0-20-generic/kernel/drivers/net/can/usb
/lib/modules/4.15.0-20-generic/kernel/drivers/net/can/usb/mcba_usb.ko
/lib/modules/4.15.0-20-generic/kernel/drivers/net/can/usb/esd_usb2.ko
/lib/modules/4.15.0-20-generic/kernel/drivers/net/can/usb/gs_usb.ko
/lib/modules/4.15.0-20-generic/kernel/drivers/net/can/usb/kvaser_usb.ko
/lib/modules/4.15.0-20-generic/kernel/drivers/net/can/usb/ems_usb.ko
/lib/modules/4.15.0-20-generic/kernel/drivers/net/can/usb/usb_8dev.ko
/lib/modules/4.15.0-20-generic/kernel/drivers/net/can/usb/peak_usb
/lib/modules/4.15.0-20-generic/kernel/drivers/net/can/usb/peak_usb/peak_usb.ko
/lib/modules/4.15.0-20-generic/kernel/drivers/net/ieee802154/atusb.ko
/lib/modules/4.15.0-20-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ralink/rt2x00/rt2800usb.ko
/lib/modules/4.15.0-20-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ralink/rt2x00/rt2x00usb.ko
/lib/modules/4.15.0-20-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ralink/rt2x00/rt2500usb.ko
/lib/modules/4.15.0-20-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ralink/rt2x00/rt73usb.ko
/lib/modules/4.15.0-20-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rsi/rsi_usb.ko
/lib/modules/4.15.0-20-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/intersil/p54/p54usb.ko
/lib/modules/4.15.0-20-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/intersil/orinoco/orinoco_usb.ko
/lib/modules/4.15.0-20-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/marvell/libertas_tf/libertas_tf_usb.ko
/lib/modules/4.15.0-20-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/marvell/libertas/usb8xxx.ko
/lib/modules/4.15.0-20-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/marvell/mwifiex/mwifiex_usb.ko
/lib/modules/4.15.0-20-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/atmel/at76c50x-usb.ko
/lib/modules/4.15.0-20-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/realtek/rtlwifi/rtl_usb.ko
/lib/modules/4.15.0-20-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath6kl/ath6kl_usb.ko
/lib/modules/4.15.0-20-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath10k/ath10k_usb.ko
/lib/modules/4.15.0-20-generic/kernel/drivers/net/wimax/i2400m/i2400m-usb.ko
/lib/modules/4.15.0-20-generic/kernel/drivers/net/usb
/lib/modules/4.15.0-20-generic/kernel/drivers/net/usb/plusb.ko
/lib/modules/4.15.0-20-generic/kernel/drivers/net/usb/usbnet.ko

Last edited by luvbodhi; 12-30-2018 at 07:31 PM.
 
Old 12-31-2018, 11:50 PM   #9
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I tried using Exterminator but it does not create a process tree like I'm used to with Windows 10 task manager.
i realize it only addresses a minor point in the totality of your post, but htop allows you to sort as a process tree structure in case you are interested
 
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Old 01-01-2019, 12:30 AM   #10
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Thanks cordx,

I installed htop a while back and really like how it shows in text the bar graphs for processor core utilization. Quite creative. I'll dig into htop and track down how to view the process trees.

Thanks again!
 
Old 01-01-2019, 02:38 AM   #11
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i really like the bar graphs as well as the color coding. i'm sure top shows everything i need as well, i just find things easier to orient to when there is some color differentiation. looks like f5 will switch views from sorted (i like keeping mine sorted by cpu or mem%) to tree. alternately, i can click on the bottom part of the window where it says Tree and that will also toggle between the views.

on my legacy machine, i have a couple different "lightweight" distros loaded just to see how they handle the smaller specs. it does have 4 gb of ram so browsers still work decently well. i don't use it much, especially not for browsing or youtube. 99% of the time i run bodhi just because i am familiar with it and have come to enjoy it. one of the debian based os'es that machine also runs is called ToriOS. like i said, i haven't spent a whole lot of time playing around with it, but thought it was interesting that it came loaded with seamonkey.

while searching a little for more info on seamonkey, i came across this page (though a couple years old) which also suggests pale moon and opera as lightweight alternatives:

https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/reco...rowser/4407/23

full disclosure: i've never used any of those with bodhi. i'm a bit of a diehard long-time firefox fan. just thought i would add to the possibilities in case you were still checking out options
 
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Old 01-02-2019, 10:00 AM   #12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the_waiter View Post
Hello there

I can be wrong but I think the problem is with old Midori we have in our repository. The Midori project stuck for more than year and nobody knew if survive. Today I have learned the project starts to continue with Midori 7 revision. So far I can not see it possible to install via deb package thus need to install from source and test. Then we can add the package to the testing repository for users testing.

Stefan

https://www.midori-browser.org/

EDIT: just made youtube audio tracks working:
sudo apt-get install gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad

Still no video here
Midori will easily play HTML5 videos on youtube. You just need the right stuff installed:

Code:
sudo apt-get install libgstreamer1.0-0
sudo apt-get install gstreamer1.0-plugins-base gstreamer1.0-plugins-good 
sudo apt-get install gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly 
sudo apt-get install gstreamer1.0-libav

I messed around with midori's settings also but am unsure if any of that was needed, and too lazy to check.

This works on both Bodhi's version and the latest version which I have been testing.

Midori will also play flash and I used to set that up but I haven't bothered with BL 5.0 as things are moving away from flash and really I don't use midori for much. Bodhi's version of midori is sorta broken on many modern websites. I haven't tested the latest version enough to know how usable it is, but it did have a issue in google docs. So it prob will not do as a replacement for a more 'mature' browser such as FF, Chrome, Opera and so on.

As to the recent version of Midori (7.0) it fails to open apturl links both in BL5.0 and my test lubuntu install. Until that is fixed and or I figure out how to fix it myself, I am not going to add it to our repos.

Historically Midori is included in a default install of Bodhi so users can user our app center and/or install a web browser more to their needs as well as to provide the needed functionality of our Bodhi help menu item. Midori meets those needs it is light on resources and has small enough install size.

But we advise users to install what they want and need.
 
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Old 01-02-2019, 11:53 PM   #13
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palemoon.

Even less resources if you use vlc to open a youtube video link; I can play 720p on my pentium 4 that way. With browser only 360p.
 
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Old 01-03-2019, 07:07 AM   #14
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Just an update Midori developer, Christian (kalikiana) Dywan, fixed the apturl issue with Midori v 7.0 so I have packaged it and added it to Bodhi 5.0 testing repo. If you don't want to enable the testing repo you can download the needed deb files directly.
 
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Old 01-04-2019, 02:12 PM   #15
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Yes Ylee

sudo apt-get install gstreamer1.0-libav

Did the job. It was the only package I had not installed from your list.
Now YT on Midori works

Thanx Robert
 
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