So I have 2 laptops with Arch on that both do the same thing. They run great, no issues (well, nothing that is within the purview of this thread), but neither will reboot or shutdown. They do the same thing...they power down, EXCEPT they leave the wifi & hard drive light blinking, so it does still slowly use up the battery even though nothings actually working. I've tried:

Kmenu > Reboot
Kmenu > Shutdown
shutdown -h now (as root)
shutdown -r now (as root)
halt (as root)
reboot (as root)

All do the exact same thing. I seem to recall reading that this is a systemd issue and there's a fix, but for the life of me I can't find the page I saw the fix in.

Just curious Timothy.

The commands you are using are depreciated with the inclusion of systemd now which controls shutodwn and other features like reboot and such. No?

https://www.freedesktop.org/software...t.service.html

I'm no expert because I run a systemd free distro. Hence me being unsure. I am Missing of course your last sentence.

Edit: May Help. Might Not.

https://freedesktop.org/wiki/Softwar...emd/Debugging/

https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/47734

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic....24624#p1624624

More guesswork

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=209567

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=209434

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=197674

Even if the commands are deprecated, that wouldn't explain why attempting reboot/shutdown through the gui (kmenu) doesn't work either.

This is for no booting. System boots fine, and technically it mostly shuts down fine, it just doesn't FULLY shut down.

I am affected by this, but not often enough to bother trying to fix, yet.

This looks promising...I'm gonna have to see if that might help.

edit: phooey, this actually prevented me from even ATTEMPTING shutting down/rebooting as a normal user (ie - through gui)...

Another for the "stop job," which doesn't annoy me that often.

Stop job again, to my knowledge every systemd distro is affected (I've seen this multiple times at work even on CentOS).

Even though it says this is only for HP's, I tried the fix, didn't affect anything.

At any rate, thanks for trying to help!

Well, since my clumsy advice took you off the zero reply list.

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic....18958#p1218958

This is more of a bump than help. When it comes to systemd. I am lost.
At least I am leaving FUD out of this thread.

My understanding from reading up on your problem is changing login managers, like GDM to something else. Fixes some peoples problems.
But I guess that is startup?

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=194039

Like a said. Just a bump. Since I am poking and hoping.

As far as being off the zero-reply, bah. This subforum isn't insanely busy, so plenty will still see it, and it's not like I can't use the machine. Just irritating that I have to hard power off.

Arch is using LightDM instead of SDDM that my Fedora & Debian builds use (which do shut down correctly), so that's definitely worth looking into. Will have to try installing sddm instead. I don't BELIEVE I have that module loaded, but I'll have to double check and maybe try that too.

edit - No dice...still doesn't shutdown/reboot properly when using sddm. Still, I DO prefer sddm to lightdm, so it's still an improvement even if it's not an improvement in the issue. (also verified that module's not loading, and poweroff -f does the same thing).

I realized probably the weirdest part is that my very similar Lenovo that has Antergos on it DOESN'T suffer the same issue. They're both intel processors with intel graphics, intel wireless, ssd's (different form factors but both SATA (mSATA & m.2 SATA), touchscreens, etc.. One is 5th gen the other 6th gen, but still, very similar. This is interesting to try to figure out why with the same OS one has such issues and the other works properly.

Do you have a UEFI chip in there? I seem to remember that UEFI has something called fastboot which means that the computer never really shuts down.

Yes, both have fastboot but neither is enabled (which oddly, it is enabled on my Debian machine that's super super super nearly identical to this machine Latitude E5250 (this) and Latitude E5450 (Wildmage w/ Debian)).