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Old 10-29-2023, 07:58 AM   #1
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(open)bsd on a smartphone : imagine a future?


hello
after few pages of debate about openbsd, Im thinking about the following one :
https://www.undeadly.org/cgi?action=...20220126191703

as openbsd could run on several different platforms, I was thinking, the reasons of why there is no non-linux alternative, to ios or android-like based phone systems :

-ios/android-likes ate almost all the mobile OS market
-postmarket/pureos/manjaro/sailfish/mobian/ubuntum/etc are all linux-only variants (bsd, where are you?)
-openbsd has reputation of secured-based and reliable system
-it could run on older phone, especially for basics interfaces
-in a period of cyberattacks, of prism or others pegasus stories, a new highly secured alternative is welcomed

i did not found any third-part non-linux, or bsd mobile alternative system... why, how imagine a such project, for the next decades?

i thank you vm for your explainations, comments, ideas or suggestions, to understand better the absence of bsd systems on the mobile..

thank you
 
Old 11-06-2023, 05:49 AM   #2
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to understand better the absence of bsd systems on the mobile..
iOS is a BSD system.
 
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iOS is a BSD system.
Yep. OS X is a hybrid version of FreeBSD.
 
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Technically, macOS is the successor to NeXTSTEP which was based on 4.3BSD (later, 4.4BSD). It's true that some of what recent macOS and iOS versions include contains FreeBSD code, but "OS X" itself is not a "hybrid version" of FreeBSD - it uses a very different kernel, to name the most obvious difference.
 
Old 05-23-2024, 07:06 AM   #5
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iOS is a BSD system.
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Yep. OS X is a hybrid version of FreeBSD.
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Technically, macOS is the successor to NeXTSTEP which was based on 4.3BSD (later, 4.4BSD). It's true that some of what recent macOS and iOS versions include contains FreeBSD code, but "OS X" itself is not a "hybrid version" of FreeBSD - it uses a very different kernel, to name the most obvious difference.

well, i would be very surprise to see "the part of" the code in macos, iphoneOS, is :
-BSD (only freebsd?)
-mach/aleph (carnegie mellon)
-xnu

as darwin software use *normally* all those three them, i guess the repartition cannot be that balanced. Im sure that the "bsd" part is probably low or very reduced, but i might be wrong.

however, lot of people still consider that "macos/iphoneos" are based on freebsd-like OS, where they dont even know the existence of xnu, mac/aleph (carnegie) even if formers apple executives (even avie's team) said that mach/xnu participates in this unix system. Lot of people thinks macos&iph are just almost only based on bsd things. Im convinced it's false.

a great interview about that subject :
https://old.reddit.com/r/apple/comme...97_2006_talks/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtpIFrOGTHk
 
Old 05-23-2024, 09:59 AM   #6
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https://developer.apple.com/library/...g/BSD/BSD.html

https://www.nextcomputers.org/files/...mld/index.html
 
  


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