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Old 06-27-2004, 01:15 AM   #1
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Miseries at install from HDD&floppies, with vector ISO& how to boot with vector linux


Hi!

I' m trying to revive the antiquated PC hardware,
Here's my PC hardware composition as following:
==========================
inter pentium 166 CPU,
64 M RAM,
inter 430 TX mother-board,
quantum 4.3G hard disk(bigfoot)5200 n,
Creative graphic blaster exxtreme PCI graphic card(Permedia 2 Rev1 chipd),
1.44"diskette drive,
Yamaha (XG)724 F-V chipset based PCI sound card ,
Lite-on 52X speed CD-rom,
WS5628-B PCI modem( Ambient MD5628D-L-C Chips)/( another name:intel536ep),
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someone suggested me to install vector 4.0, then I'd give vector linux 4.0 a try, just downloaded vector linux 4.0 latest ISO. image to fat partition and extracted it to as ...c:/veclinux,
later with rawwriteWin I made boot&root diskes from
"bootide.img&root.img", once reboot, it went smoothly,installation went on, but extremly slow,"Bzip2 veclinux" took about 10mins,"Bzip2 xfree43" took 15 mins,.... once finished "bzip2 xfree43" it suddenly stalled at
" Chicken!!!" ....."typing passwd to fix" "other console messages" before going to hardwares 'setup&config.

What special command should I apply to go with installation from HDD succefully for vector4.0 with boot&root floppy disces?


Later ON I PLUGOFF QUUNTUM HDD AND PLUG IT INTO ANOTHER NFORCE2 MB(EPOX-8RDA3G), INSTALLATION WENT SMOOTHLY,...I put it back to that antiquated PC, let sys. to detect hardwares antomaticly,it's ok , but can only enter Vector linux by
booting from bootdisk ( typing : linux root=/dev/hda1 ro)..No lilo .while lilo can't be installed either to superblock or floppy disk, ONLY ERRO MESSAGE, I tried editing /etc/lilo.conf then /sbin/lilo, it prompted " partition entry not found", in fact partition 're just there by typing "fdisk -l",/HDA1,/HDA5,/HDA7,ETC
OF COURSE I SET BIOS 'S VIRUS WARNING TO "DISABLE" ALL THE TIME
.......HOW SHOULD I FIX THE LILO ISSUE?




Yet I still haven't figure out how to boot with vector linux 4.0 live cd's ISO image (on Fat partition of windows) for having a try Vectorlinux 4.0 live CD?anyone did run it from HDD successfully?

there's no Cd-writer around me at all. only HDD install with floppy & iso image suit me .

you see from main doc .of vector &website '
, I found no clue of solutions at all.

Hope you could help me through your real experiences with vector 4.0& live.

Write me back then.




tom
 
Old 06-27-2004, 03:20 AM   #2
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Quote:
( typing : linux root=/dev/hda1 ro)
That's one issue : the "ro"-part at the end of that line means you mount the system as "read-only" , so you can't make any changes.
Try mounting it without that option(or with the option "rw") , edit your /etc/lilo.conf and then run "/sbin/lilo".
If it works ; WRITE LILO TO THE MBR.(MasterBootRecord)
If it doesn't : try to post the relevant outputs from "dmesg" here.(cat dmesg) Also : check the outputs from the various log-files(in /var/log/messages) ; there might be some enlightening lines in them as well.
 
Old 06-27-2004, 05:04 AM   #3
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Hi!Megamieuwsel,

Thanks your helpful reply!
I'm trying your method now,but
HOW to post the relevant outputs from "dmesg" to here,you see now the networking of Vector 4.0 not working yet, any special commands could let me export the output of dmesg to a floppy or USB flashdisk?
I mounted it without "ro" , edited /etc/lilo.conf and then run "/sbin/lilo".it prompted:" partition entry not found"
, in fact partition 're just there by typing "fdisk -l",/HDA1,/HDA5,/HDA7,ETC
later I tried mounted with the option "rw", problem remains.........

Then I tried VASM---LILO---simple------mbr, erros remains, it promped:
==================================

Sorry , but the attempt to install LILO has returned an error, so LILO has not been correctly installed, You'll have to use a bootdisk to start your machine instead,It should still be possible to get LILO working by editing the /etc/lilo.conf and reinstalling LILO manually. See the lILO main page and Documentation in /usr/doc/lilo for more help
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A bein tot!

Tom
 
Old 06-27-2004, 05:11 AM   #4
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Hi!Megamieuwsel,

Thanks your helpful reply!
I'm trying your method now,but
HOW to post the relevant outputs from "dmesg" to here,you see now the networking of Vector 4.0 not working yet, any special commands could let me export the output of dmesg to a floppy or USB flashdisk?
I mounted it without "ro" , edited /etc/lilo.conf and then run "/sbin/lilo".it prompted:" partition entry not found"
, in fact partition 're just there by typing "fdisk -l",/HDA1,/HDA5,/HDA7,ETC
later I tried mounted with the option "rw", problem remains.........

Then I tried VASM---LILO---simple------mbr, erros remains, it promped:
==================================

Sorry , but the attempt to install LILO has returned an error, so LILO has not been correctly installed, You'll have to use a bootdisk to start your machine instead,It should still be possible to get LILO working by editing the /etc/lilo.conf and reinstalling LILO manually. See the lILO main page and Documentation in /usr/doc/lilo for more help
========================================



A bein tot!

Tom
 
Old 06-27-2004, 11:42 AM   #5
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Ok , so "simple" didn't pan out.
Let's try "expert" this time.
vasm => Lilo => Expert =>Begin => read carefully and fill in all the relevant info accurately.(typos are lethal in Linux....)
Then(Still in Vasm's expert-Lilo-menu) go to "Linux" and add your Linux-entry there plus the name it should display during boot.
Then hit "Install".

I think a lot of people , new to a distro , tend to shy away from stuff branded "expert" or "advanced". No need for that in VL ; all the info , you need to do it right is presented where you need it.(In Vasm , at least....)

Now , about how to get those outputs on a floppy:

If you can run X , you're in luck: this will be very easy.
In your preferred DE you open an xterm-window (aterm works as well) and type "dmesg".
Open an editor (NEdit hides behind the "XWordpad"-icon IIRC...).
Highlight(select) the output , you just got in the console and paste it into the textfield of the editor.(Middle-click)

Now : insert a floppy in your drive and mount it.( mount /mnt/floppy )
Save your textfile as /mnt/floppy/dmesg.txt.

There's your dmesg-output , neatly on a floppy.

The log-files can be opened directly in a text-editor and saved in just the same way.

If X isn't working (yet....) , I'm a bit at a loss for how to do that dmesg-thingy(try copying between terminals , maybe? never tried it...)
But the log-files should be no problem. (nano is a handy console text-editor.)
 
Old 06-27-2004, 11:48 AM   #6
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Btw.- If this doesn't work , I'll have to acknowledge my defeat and send you to the "higher court" on this matter :http://www.vectorlinux.com/forum/
Being the board-admin there (I'm SuSE-Refugee) doesn't mean , I'm an expert on Linux......
 
Old 06-27-2004, 01:17 PM   #7
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LILO"S IN FUNCTION

HI!Megamieuwsel,

Thanks a lot!

Tried "expert" option to install LILO following your advices, IT WORKED! through functional LILO now, booting to sys gets faster, kernel 2.4.22 get loaded, 8139d pci network card& Yamaha 724 pci sound card get into fully functional.

The whole system seems to be ok now, while browsers' plugins haven't downloaded yet, no tools to play Vedio,VCD, MPEG,real format ,yet......

Do I need to make any online updates and get security patches?which commands should do the work?
would "urpmi" work?

many thanks again!


Bon weekend!

Tom
 
Old 06-28-2004, 12:07 AM   #8
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dmesg.txt attached

Hi!Megamieuwsel,
G'day!

hereby I attached the output of DMESG for your referances as following( inform me how to fix system further,ok):
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Linux version 2.4.22 (root@vec7) (gcc version 3.2.2) #2 Mon Aug 25 16:17:44 PDT 2003
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 00000000000a0000 (usable)
BIOS-e820: 00000000000f0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 0000000004000000 (usable)
BIOS-e820: 00000000ffff0000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved)
64MB LOWMEM available.
ACPI: have wakeup address 0xc0001000
On node 0 totalpages: 16384
zone(0): 4096 pages.
zone(1): 12288 pages.
zone(2): 0 pages.
DMI not present.
ACPI: Unable to locate RSDP
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=vector ro root=301
Initializing CPU#0
Detected 180.081 MHz processor.
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 359.62 BogoMIPS
Memory: 61584k/65536k available (1811k kernel code, 3568k reserved, 642k data, 124k init, 0k highmem)
Dentry cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
Inode cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 3, 32768 bytes)
Mount cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 2, 16384 bytes)
Page-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)
Intel Pentium with F0 0F bug - workaround enabled.
CPU: After generic, caps: 000001bf 00000000 00000000 00000000
CPU: Common caps: 000001bf 00000000 00000000 00000000
CPU: Intel Pentium 75 - 200 stepping 0c
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
mtrr: v1.40 (20010327) Richard Gooch (rgooch@atnf.csiro.au)
mtrr: detected mtrr type: none
ACPI: Subsystem revision 20030813
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfb050, last bus=0
PCI: Using configuration type 1
ACPI: System description tables not found
ACPI-0084: *** Error: acpi_load_tables: Could not get RSDP, AE_NOT_FOUND
ACPI-0134: *** Error: acpi_load_tables: Could not load tables: AE_NOT_FOUND
ACPI: Unable to load the System Description Tables
PCI: Probing PCI hardware
PCI: ACPI tables contain no PCI IRQ routing entries
PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)
PCI: Using IRQ router PIIX [8086/7110] at 00:07.0
Limiting direct PCI/PCI transfers.
isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
isapnp: No Plug & Play device found
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.4
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
Initializing RT netlink socket
Starting kswapd
VFS: Disk quotas vdquot_6.5.1
Journalled Block Device driver loaded
Detected PS/2 Mouse Port.
pty: 512 Unix98 ptys configured
Serial driver version 5.05c (2001-07-08) with HUB-6 MANY_PORTS MULTIPORT SHARE_IRQ SERIAL_PCI ISAPNP enabled
ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttyS01 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
Real Time Clock Driver v1.10e
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 7777K size 1024 blocksize
loop: loaded (max 8 devices)
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00beta4-2.4
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
PIIX4: IDE controller at PCI slot 00:07.1
PIIX4: chipset revision 1
PIIX4: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hdaio, hdbio
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdcio, hddio
hda: QUANTUM Bigfoot TX4.0AT, ATA DISK drive
blk: queue c03b25e0, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0xffffffff)
hdc: LTN526D, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: attached ide-disk driver.
hda: task_no_data_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
hda: task_no_data_intr: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError }
hda: 7849170 sectors (4019 MB) w/69KiB Cache, CHS=973/128/63, UDMA(33)
hdc: attached ide-cdrom driver.
hdc: ATAPI 52X CD-ROM drive, 120kB Cache, UDMA(33)
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12
Partition check:
hda: [PTBL] [488/255/63] hda1 hda2 < hda5 hda6 hda7 hda8 >
SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00
kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k scsi_hostadapter, errno = 2
kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k scsi_hostadapter, errno = 2
kmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k scsi_hostadapter, errno = 2
md: linear personality registered as nr 1
md: raid0 personality registered as nr 2
md: raid1 personality registered as nr 3
md: raid5 personality registered as nr 4
raid5: measuring checksumming speed
8regs : 108.000 MB/sec
32regs : 101.200 MB/sec
raid5: using function: 8regs (108.000 MB/sec)
md: md driver 0.90.0 MAX_MD_DEVS=256, MD_SB_DISKS=27
md: Autodetecting RAID arrays.
md: autorun ...
md: ... autorun DONE.
LVM version 1.0.5+(22/07/2002)
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
IP: routing cache hash table of 512 buckets, 4Kbytes
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 4096 bind 8192)
NET4: Unix domain sockets 1.0/SMP for Linux NET4.0.
FAT: bogus logical sector size 0
UMSDOS: msdos_read_super failed, mount aborted.
FAT: bogus logical sector size 0
FAT: bogus logical sector size 0
reiserfs: found format "3.6" with standard journal
reiserfs: checking transaction log (device ide0(3,1)) ...
for (ide0(3,1))
ide0(3,1):Using r5 hash to sort names
VFS: Mounted root (reiserfs filesystem) readonly.
Freeing unused kernel memory: 124k freed
Adding Swap: 124260k swap-space (priority -1)
scsi0 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices
8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.26
PCI: Found IRQ 11 for device 00:0b.0
eth0: RealTek RTL8139 Fast Ethernet at 0xc48dd000, 00:0a:eb:76:08:21, IRQ 11
eth0: Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8139C'
PCI: Found IRQ 9 for device 00:09.0
ymfpci: YMF724F at 0xe1420000 IRQ 9
ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, id: ADS3 (Analog Devices AD1819)
usb.c: registered new driver usbdevfs
usb.c: registered new driver hub
uhci.c: USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v1.1
uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0x6400, IRQ 11
usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
hub.c: USB hub found
hub.c: 2 ports detected
usb-uhci.c: $Revision: 1.275 $ time 17:32:07 Aug 25 2003
usb-uhci.c: High bandwidth mode enabled
usb-uhci.c: v1.275:USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver
eth0: Setting 100mbps full-duplex based on auto-negotiated partner ability 41e1.
apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x07 (Driver version 1.16)
apm: busy: Unable to enter requested state
apm: busy: Unable to enter requested state
eth0: Setting 100mbps full-duplex based on auto-negotiated partner ability 41e1.
=============================================================





Tom
 
Old 06-28-2004, 11:10 AM   #9
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Both ACPI and APM appear to be enabled. Turn one of them off : they're interferring with eachother.

And:
Code:
hda: task_no_data_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
 hda: task_no_data_intr: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError }
Don't worry about that one : Happens with my Bigfoot (3.2 Gig , used for back-up purposes) as well.
Looks like a typical(but as far as I can see : harmless) Bigfoot-issue to me.

In regards to your question about the need for updating kernel and/or security-patches :
Updating the Kernel may break the system somewhere as the later kernels dropped support for some older hardware and you may end up working for hours , if not days to get it right again. If it's not broken : Don't fix it.
 
Old 06-29-2004, 05:27 AM   #10
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no firebird

Now browser not working yet .....
when ever I intend to use firebird,it just won't be loaded and come at all....heres' prompted messgaes:
==============
/usr/X11R6/bin/mozilarFibedird/run_mozilar.sh : line 454 598 ilegal instruction
==========
How should I fix up?
now with dillo073, I can't downloded any softwares such as opera7.51.....later I used another pc to downloaded into USB fashdisk and the flashdisk didn't appeared on vector, any commands to mount it on XFCE desktop of vector?
besides firebird, how to install opera 7.51 properly with all needed plug-ins?


A bien tot!


Tom
 
  


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