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Old 02-09-2007, 04:52 PM   #1
langbein
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Question Ubuntu 6.06 LTS, Dapper Drake wants to add selected KDE apps


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You have probably selected the package kubuntu-desktop. You can at any time add KDE to your Ubuntu installation by installing this package. I assume you did it yourself, or it where done by another package you installed's requirements.....

Hello Aleksandersen,
I'm a Linux newbie with Ubuntu 6.06 and Gnome desktop from a DVD attached to "The Official Ubuntu Book." I'm really pleased with the distro so far, but miss Ksnapshot and Kclip (?Kclipboard) which I used previously on Mandriva free 2006
/KDE desktop.
Could you help me with detailed instructions to add the KDE package or some of its selected KDE apps to my Dapper Drake, 6.06 LTS?

Sincerely,
langbein

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Old 02-10-2007, 10:28 AM   #2
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I couldn't find Kclip from the reposities, but it could be with a different name or if it belongs to some other package, come with that. However I'll use Ksnapshot as an example:

Since you're using Gnome desktop, let's take the graphical route first. Open up Synaptic from the Gnome menu (not sure where it is in the meny, maybe under System or Tools or something? -I use KDE atm). It asks for your password, give it; once it's launched, use the search box to search for ksnapshot. When you get a result, check it to be installed and ask Synaptic to do the job. I'm sure it's easy to use, and I'm sorry I can't give more detailed instructions (i.e. which buttons to click), but I'm sure you'll manage. After this Synaptic (apt) checks out what other programs (dependencies) are needed, downloads and installs them and you should be fine. Just don't interrupt the program before it's done (by force closing it).

An easier method trough command line (terminal emulator, console): open up a console and type
Code:
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install ksnapshot
it asks for your password before the first command is run; type it in. Nothing is displayed on screen, but the password is written as you type, so be careful. It probably doesn't ask for the password when you type the second command, if it remembers it (for a short time); the first (update) command asks Apt to update itself, i.e. check out what versions of packages are available on the internet reposities. It's good to run that before updating/installing software, to make sure Apt is up to date; however once a day is probably enough. The second command then asks apt to install a package called ksnapshot -- if the package requires other software to be installed, it automatically gets them. Note: before it starts downloading and installing the packages, it may ask you if you want to do it (y/n) -- in that case answer yes (y).

Kclip would naturally work the same way, but if it doesn't work (apt-get install kclip or trough Synaptic won't work, complains that no package of that name was found) try to search Google or Ubuntu forums for information which package includes it.
 
Old 02-10-2007, 01:16 PM   #3
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Just a few friendly notes

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Originally Posted by b0uncer
I couldn't find Kclip from the reposities, but it could be with a different name or if it belongs to some other package, come with that. However I'll use Ksnapshot as an example:

Since you're using Gnome desktop, let's take the graphical route first. Open up Synaptic from the Gnome menu (not sure where it is in the meny, maybe under System or Tools or something? -I use KDE atm). It asks for your password, give it; once it's launched, use the search box to search for ksnapshot. When you get a result, check it to be installed and ask Synaptic to do the job. I'm sure it's easy to use, and I'm sorry I can't give more detailed instructions (i.e. which buttons to click), but I'm sure you'll manage. After this Synaptic (apt) checks out what other programs (dependencies) are needed, downloads and installs them and you should be fine. Just don't interrupt the program before it's done (by force closing it).

An easier method trough command line (terminal emulator, console): open up a console and type
Code:
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install ksnapshot
it asks for your password before the first command is run; type it in. Nothing is displayed on screen, but the password is written as you type, so be careful. It probably doesn't ask for the password when you type the second command, if it remembers it (for a short time); the first (update) command asks Apt to update itself, i.e. check out what versions of packages are available on the internet reposities. It's good to run that before updating/installing software, to make sure Apt is up to date; however once a day is probably enough. The second command then asks apt to install a package called ksnapshot -- if the package requires other software to be installed, it automatically gets them. Note: before it starts downloading and installing the packages, it may ask you if you want to do it (y/n) -- in that case answer yes (y).

Kclip would naturally work the same way, but if it doesn't work (apt-get install kclip or trough Synaptic won't work, complains that no package of that name was found) try to search Google or Ubuntu forums for information which package includes it.

Synaptic Package Manager is in the System->Administration menu.

Use the Mark All Upgrades button to update the repositories. If there are any updates, the Apply button will become available.

The "kclip" package you're looking for is actually named "klipper" (or maybe I should say that's the only clipboard utility I could find for KDE in Ubuntu).

Be sure to use all lower-case when searching with Synaptic or installing from the terminal. Linux uses all lower-case in filenames, and is case-sensitive.

Good luck!
 
Old 02-10-2007, 01:20 PM   #4
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Good morning and thank you bOuncer for your prompt and detailed response.
I'll use your steps and see what happens; will post my results in this thread when available. Ksnapshot is more useful to me that Kclip, anyway.
Since you use KDE, I wonder if Kclip or Kclipboard is present on your version? Again thank you for your help. I've always found LinuxQuestions to be reliable and problem oriented.

A Linux learner,
langbein
 
Old 02-10-2007, 01:28 PM   #5
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Hello dragonslayer48dx,
Yes, klipper is the application I was searching for! The name I seemed to remember has the right sense, but not the right spelling. This is a problem in the 21st century: technology has changed the spelling of words to phonetic from traditional English.
Anyway, now both applications are identified.

More to follow in terms of a success, I hope.

Langbein
 
Old 02-10-2007, 05:03 PM   #6
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Good afternoon, dragonslayer or bOuncer,
The installation of both klipper and ksnapshot worked very well using <sudo apt-get install ksnapshot> as you directed. Ksnapshot is readily visible in Applications/Graphics. I can't locate klipper, however. File search shows the file in two locations:
1. usr/share/app-install/desktop and in
2. usr/share/app-install/icon.
But when I try to gain access to these directories, using su for superuser, my login password will not accept me as a superuser! How can I install two applications with a login password, but can't login as a superuser?
Is there a site unknown to me where I have to create a superuser password other than the login password? If so, where is this site?

3:29 pm, PST
Just found my answer using Help/Basic linux
The user pw will access superuser priviledges if I do not USE <su or su->,
BUT INSTEAD USE <<sudo space -i>>
Now to find the file klipper!
langbein

Thanks again for the ksnapshot and klipper help. Ksnapshot works just like to with the KDE desktop in my previous distro: Mandriva 2006.
Sincerely,
langbein

Last edited by langbein; 02-10-2007 at 05:31 PM.
 
Old 02-11-2007, 09:42 AM   #7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by langbein
Good afternoon, dragonslayer or bOuncer,
The installation of both klipper and ksnapshot worked very well using <sudo apt-get install ksnapshot> as you directed. Ksnapshot is readily visible in Applications/Graphics. I can't locate klipper, however. File search shows the file in two locations:
1. usr/share/app-install/desktop and in
2. usr/share/app-install/icon.
But when I try to gain access to these directories, using su for superuser, my login password will not accept me as a superuser! How can I install two applications with a login password, but can't login as a superuser?
Is there a site unknown to me where I have to create a superuser password other than the login password? If so, where is this site?

3:29 pm, PST
Just found my answer using Help/Basic linux
The user pw will access superuser priviledges if I do not USE <su or su->,
BUT INSTEAD USE <<sudo space -i>>
Now to find the file klipper!
langbein

Thanks again for the ksnapshot and klipper help. Ksnapshot works just like to with the KDE desktop in my previous distro: Mandriva 2006.
Sincerely,
langbein

You're welcome. That's what we're here for...

One more thing; Once you find klipper, you can use Alacarte Menu Editor from the Applications->Accessories menu to add it to a menu, or drag-n-drop it onto the desktop or panel for easier access. You can also launch it from the Terminal simply by typing <klipper>.
 
Old 02-11-2007, 12:59 PM   #8
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Your post script, dragonslayer48dx, was just what I needed to ask you about! You are indeed a mindreader and a slayer of "Linux dragons" as I see their "carcases" lying all around me. :>)
More when klipper is clipping.
Take care, you all,
langbein
Sunday morning at 10:59am, PST
 
Old 02-12-2007, 02:29 PM   #9
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Good afternoon dragonslayer48dx and other readers,
I finally succeeded in adding an active KDE klipper icon to the top desktop toolbar in Ubuntu 6.06 LTS! But for a newbie it was difficult. After a successful installation of the packaged klipper application, I used file search to locate the autostart file labelled klipper.desktop (located in /usr/share/autostart). This icon is a launching icon and not the active icon! Once the launcher icon is locked on the desktop toolbar, so that it "survives" a reboot, the launcher is then double-clicked to enable a SECOND ACTIVE ICON (slightly smaller, otherwise identical to the launcher), which resides adjacent to the LAUNCHER ICON!
The active klipper icon works elegantly, however. It saves as many cut/past entries as you wish to accept.
Sound complicated? It certainly was for me.
All is now in order.

Thanks again to the LQ staff and other contributors,
langbein,
 
  


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