I just got my 20 copies the other day of 5.04 and installed them onto my systems.

http://www.ubuntulinux.org really did a great job on this "upgrade" of 4.10

You installed all 20 copies?

Yea... and I'm exhausted but satisfied!!!

They need to give them away like idsoftware did with Doom me thinks... oh wait... they're already doing that! *w00 h00*

The 20 ubuntu "hoary" 5.04's and the rest of the distro's here at my domicile I use for testing software and breaking/fixing the O/S. Each system is moving more and more over to Debian-based distro's which I believe are going to rule the market eventually.

Why am I so happy? Because not too long ago I paid for my Debian AlphaServer 3.0r2 CD's because there was no Internet access in this area until a little while ago. We're so isolated here in the mountains... we just got "call-waiting" and "caller-id" last week! No broadband in the works for the future, so I purchased the (7) Debian CD's from http://debian.abexia.com/, because downloading them on a 56k is just nutty.

I wish Debian.org would do the "prepaid shipping giveaway" that ubuntu is doing. That would RoCk!@ Thankfully for me now, I have a friend that's willing to download stuff on his corp T3 for me, burn the ISO's and ship them to me free. The wait is bad though because he's the CEO and he's very busy. I asked him for RH9 when it came out and in Dec 2004 he sent me FC3 with an explanation that it's RedHat 12 (ROFL). Everyone knows my story of FC3 now... if he had sent me RH9, it might have been the same experience with the SSL (Secure Socket Layer) not being secure just like FC3. I like RH... what a shame... 3 releases later than RH9 and FC3 has the RH9 exploit listed at http://www.linuxsecurity.com/.

Oh well.. I'm happy he slipped in one of those "free 4.10 ubuntu install/live cd" packages with my open source pack because I wouldn't know about it now without his innovative thinking. Now I have the nice "rule of thumb for sanity"... no more Fedora for my main box. Just use Fedora, to abuse it, to find out what it takes to fix it to help other unfortunate unknowing people and stay with the best.... ubuntu and Debian!

Why didn't you just use one copy for all your installations. You didn't really need 20 copies, unless you are going to give away some of them.

Sounds like we have the same hobby, using and abusing many different distros to see just what it takes to break them.

I've learned a lot from torturing the Tux to see what he can take. I have to say I've been pretty impressed with Hoary so far.

Yep, I have a very bad habit of using and abusing distros. You are right though, that you learn a lot from doing that.

I forgot to add why I didn't download RH9 ISO's with my 56k. It's because I needed other distributions besides RH9.

* FreeBSD 5.2 (3 ISO's)
* Gentoo 2004.2 & 2004.3 (3 ISO's)
* Helix 1.5 (1 ISO)
* Hikarunix 0.2 (1 ISO)
* Knoppix 3.6 (1 ISO)
* Mandrake 10.0 (2 ISO's)
* RedHat 7.2 (AlphaServer 64-bit) (5 ISO's)
* Slackware 10.0 (2 ISO's)
* SuSE 9.1 Personal (1 ISO)
* Yoper 2.1 (1 ISO)

t3gah: I read your post in hopes of hearing more about ubuntu's performance on the 64-platform.

I tried Kubuntu 5.10 install @ live Cd (separately) for AMD 64 on a new machine with AMD64 processer. Would not function.

I tried using a brand new hd and letting the install do whatever it wanted w/out needing to share! Still no function. I could type user name but then no keyboard input would be received-even though the keyboard worked fine during install.

I then tried using a different keyboard and then two at once.Same problem.The live cd also went only so far,then always seemed to drop to a shell that would not receive input from anything. (By the way, one keyboard was a USB 2.0 and one was in the dedicated keyboard in port.) I was disappointed not to be able to even try it!

Perhaps I should try an older version but Will probably try something else first.

Linux in general is just what I want! Windows XP professional reminds me of buying a truck and finding out I can't customise it or drive anywhere other than in the microsoft amusement park-and no giving a friend a ride!

Miah in Maine