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Old 11-03-2010, 07:17 PM   #1
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Lightbulb Wouldn't it be really kewl, if.....


There was a Slackware Linux logo here?



Hope that helps
 
Old 11-04-2010, 12:01 PM   #2
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Hope that helps
Two cents and smileys can't keep one from asking what purpose this OP has?
 
Old 11-04-2010, 01:44 PM   #3
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Two cents and smileys can't keep one from asking what purpose this OP has?
I too would like to know. It looks like maybe the OP wants Pat V to become a sponsor for this ... quite unlikely, but then you could ask him.
 
Old 11-04-2010, 01:48 PM   #4
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As Slackware isn't really a corporation, and I suspect that PatV's mansion is smaller than we'd expect, I seriously doubt he has the spare cash to sponsor the LPI.
 
Old 11-04-2010, 03:18 PM   #5
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As Slackware isn't really a corporation, and I suspect that PatV's mansion is smaller than we'd expect, I seriously doubt he has the spare cash to sponsor the LPI.
Great answer @XavierP! This is a good place to jump off and ramp up the discussion on this point. FYI, pls see in the following link that Slackware Linux, Inc., really is a [California (I believe)]corporation with registered trademarks, and Slack was once distributed in shrink-wrap by Morse Telecommunications, and placed on the shelves at Egghead software and other retailers at one time, as well as by Walnut Creek.

I believe that you are correct in assuming that Patrick (Slackware Linux, Inc.) doesn't have the disposable income readily available to become such a sponsor of LPI and their programs, but I'll get back to that in a minute

I'll also respond to the other two posts regarding my motivation. Typically, when someone creates a post like mine, they're fishing, or 'trolling' perhaps (but in a good way I assure you).

My motive was questioned in a rather odd way by @unspawn, who might have taken a few moments to look over many of the past threads I've participated in, demonstrating zealous and unwavering support for Patrick's distro (actually, I've been a stalwart fan of Slackware since the 0.99 kernel).

I've been promoting and converting people to Slackware when/wherever I can for many many years now, and I do have ulterior motives for my post - to catalyze discussion on the issue of Slackware's sponsorship of the LPI program.

Think about this: Slack is the most UNIX of most Unices currently available (and has been almost since its inception). LPI is the most distribution neutral (Flavor Neutral, if you want to include its benefit to the BSD and other UNIX communities) of all of the certification programs.

LPI is solidly grounded in the same philosophies as the impetus for the Linux Kernel to be GPL'd, POSIX standards, and the whole Bob Dobbs musings.

No, I'm not suggesting that Patrick shell out duckets to be listed as an LPI sponsor, even though Slackware (and perhaps Gentoo or LFS) is arguably the most likely Linux Distro to come to mind when one first thinks of an LPI-like program.

What I am suggesting, is support for the notion of a collection plate to take to Patrick (with money in it), so that Slackware, obo the community of our fellow Slackers, can be prominently displayed as a sponsor of LPI.

I can't imagine a better Linux Distro to enable an LPI professional to base their education upon in a distro-independant way (other than the BSDs, which aren't Linux ).

If there is support for such a campaign in the community, then I believe that Patrick would provide a nod of approval for such an endeavor.

Now my motives are known.
 
Old 11-04-2010, 06:40 PM   #6
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I can't imagine a better Linux Distro to enable an LPI professional to base their education upon in a distro-independant way (other than the BSDs, which aren't Linux ).
But they can do it today. Nothing stops LPI professionals from using Slackware for education, commercial deployment, or whatever else they want. Nothing stops them from certifying people with regard to using Slackware. It would be absolutely trivial to rebrand Slackware and go completely behind Patrick's back. I am sure it would be great if people handed you a basket full of bills, but I am not sure if this particular community stands to gain from LPI certifying people. I can see how big corporations which deploy GNU/Linux in production can be benefited by it, and indeed some of them are your sponsors, but many of us are not that, and neither is the Slackware team.

Don't take this the wrong way. This is just one personal opinion, and I definitely did not mind you asking.
 
Old 11-04-2010, 07:05 PM   #7
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Don't take this the wrong way. This is just one personal opinion, and I definitely did not mind you asking.
Oh no offense taken at all BTW, I'm not affiliated w/LPI, although I have made a few contribs over the years, and if I recall correctly, back in the early part of this decade Slackware 8 or 9 was part of the pack of Linux Distros that were handed out in the LPI program at one school which I taught the <cough> MCSE <cough> program.

And don't get me wrong either In the early 90's, we had Xenix and 386BSD before a stable Linux distro (Or a viable x86 BSD) emerged, and at one point (documented in the "old" Boardwatch mag) many of us had to kneel down, and kiss the Borg ring of Bill Gates (a satanic ceremony started at the Netscape Developers Conference of that year).

Anyway, what I'm basically probing, is a straw poll to see how many folks would put up 5 or 20 bucks a year to maintain such a sponsorship of a "distro independant" Linux cert program. Most of us already openly recommend "Rute", and if there appeared to be enough people pledging support, then asking Patrick if he would accept the donations and provide the sponsorship to LPI is all I'm throwing out here.

A great many of us are already Slackware subscribers, for no other reason than to show appreciation and salary remuneration to Patrick for his considerable efforts in maintaining Slackware along w/the rest of the Slackware team.

I haven't even opened up any of my subscription packs in a few years, I simply d/l a copy from a mirror or burn an iso from my own servers if I need a disk.

Yes, nothing stops LPI instructors from using Slack as part of their curriculum, but I just have a feeling that LPI would really appreciate support from the most distro neutral distro as well, and perhaps even provde some real prominent graphic placement for a Slackware logo on their site too.

I'm always looking for ways to popularize Slackware even more.

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Old 11-04-2010, 10:09 PM   #8
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I've been promoting and converting people to Slackware when/wherever I can for many many years now, and I do have ulterior motives for my post - to catalyze discussion on the issue of Slackware's sponsorship of the LPI program.

Yes, nothing stops LPI instructors from using Slack as part of their curriculum, but I just have a feeling that LPI would really appreciate support from the most distro neutral distro as well, and perhaps even provde some real prominent graphic placement for a Slackware logo on their site too.
You do realize that, that page you linked to is a list of those that have simply shelled out money to LPI. Not a list of certs available.

Perhaps I read too far between the lines in your obtuse posting - but it seems as if you want LPI to offer a Slackware certification.
 
  


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