WINE on Slackware64

Regnad Kcin · 01-28-2023, 04:36 PM

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Where did you get that WINE is a crippled version of crossover? Crossover, while you're paying for support, is often out of date compared to WINE. I always build it with the wine-staging patches.

I asked the question. The winehq site is full of links to Crossover. Codeweavers says their Crossover app will load and run Microsoft Office. Wine 8 doesnt do that according to the winehq website. What's your definition of "crippled" software?
I didn't install Crossover as I had no intent of buying. If i just want frustration I could watch YouTube and not have to repair my machine afterwards. Maybe they are really good guys at Codeweavers and I am understanding them poorly. It is said that other have had similar experiences of being poorly understood.

henca · 01-28-2023, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin

might save me from a reboot to start win11. I dont do any gaming at all

If you have some application that requires real Windows but don't want to reboot your linux machine you might be able to run that application using Windows in a virtual machine like qemu.

regards Henrik

rkelsen · 01-28-2023, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin

The winehq site is full of links to Crossover. Codeweavers says their Crossover app will load and run Microsoft Office. Wine 8 doesnt do that according to the winehq website. What's your definition of "crippled" software?

You're looking at it the wrong way. Codeweavers take the Wine code base, extend it to add capabilities and publish the result as Crossover.

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Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin

I didn't install Crossover as I had no intent of buying.

It really doesn't matter so much these days. Back in 2002 I bought a copy of Crossover so that I could run MS Office, and recall having good results from it.

Modern MSO has a huge stack of features which are completely unnecessary, and open document formats have all but removed any dependency on Microsoft. LibreOffice is more than capable for anything required in an office setting, IME.

Regnad Kcin · 01-28-2023, 08:31 PM

I use LibreOffice in Win11 as well as in Slackware. My lab staff all use Microsoft Office therefore I need it sometimes. I dont like the new Microsoft office menus (it's been 10 years I guess but still new to me), but those menus are all that most of them know. I use Office as example to point out that relative to Crossover, Wine 8 is incomplete, undeveloped, and Codeweavers do make the claim that they are the reason that Wine exists and we should send them money to support Wine.

I do like the idea of a compatibility layer to run stuff in Slackware. I am just exploring the situation as an enquirer with a tangible user interest.

elcore · 01-29-2023, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin

Codeweavers do make the claim that they are the reason that Wine exists and we should send them money to support Wine.

With enough time on your hands, you can make wine do anything crossover can do.
All it depends on, is how much you know and how much you value your time.
And let's be realistic, what you buy from codeweavears is called support.
If they just sold unsupported binary wine, nobody would buy it.

FTIO · 01-29-2023, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cwizardone

Alienbob has been kind enough to update his WINE packages.

http://www.slackware.com/~alien/slac.../ChangeLog.txt

https://slackware.uk/people/alien/slackbuilds/wine/

A quick question that is hopefully going to have an easy to follow (for me, heh) answer...in that Changelog you posted in your post, it has "...you need to convert the 32bit FAudio and vkd3d packages to '-compat32' packages and install those as well.".

Okay...so how does one go about doing that? I just got the whole multilib thing installed on my 15.0, and have the x64 of FAudio and vkd3d installed, how do I go about 'converting' those to 32 bit?

adcdam · 01-29-2023, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FTIO

A quick question that is hopefully going to have an easy to follow (for me, heh) answer...in that Changelog you posted in your post, it has "...you need to convert the 32bit FAudio and vkd3d packages to '-compat32' packages and install those as well.".

Okay...so how does one go about doing that? I just got the whole multilib thing installed on my 15.0, and have the x64 of FAudio and vkd3d installed, how do I go about 'converting' those to 32 bit?

see here
http://www.slackware.com/~alien/multilib/

If you want to install this 32-bit package on Slackware64-multilib,
you will have to convert it to a 'compat32' package:

# convertpkg-compat32 -i /path/to/your/fresh/foo-VERSION-i586-BUILD.tgz
# upgradepkg --install-new /tmp/foo-compat32-VERSION-x86_64-BUILDcompat32.txz

FTIO · 01-29-2023, 01:14 PM

Thank you very much, adcdam! I need new glasses. Figures I'd miss something so simple. <sigh>

business_kid · 01-29-2023, 01:21 PM

wrong thread - ignore

Daedra · 01-29-2023, 04:05 PM

Actually got a real reason to use Wine today. I always have it around but I rarely ever need it. I installed Alien Bob's 8.0 and last night stumbled upon this project. It is a fan remake of Castlevania 2: Simons Quest. After figuring out that I was missing a few needed multilib packages it works perfectly. Wine has rarely disappointed me in the last few years.

cwizardone · 02-02-2023, 04:25 PM

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Wine 8.1 Released
February 2, 2023
The Wine development release 8.1 is now available.......

What's new, https://www.winehq.org/announce/8.1

business_kid · 02-03-2023, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Daedra

... Wine has rarely disappointed me in the last few years.

+1 on the wine quality. I actually think wine is better at imitating windows than windows is these days.

Because windows always has an element of hit & miss. I get a zoom feed a couple of times a week. Half the time the camera is blurred. If they plug out the webcam, & push it back in, that sometimes fixes it. If not they try again, leaving it out longer. You don't get that messing with linux. It's reliably right, or reliably wrong.

elcore · 02-03-2023, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by business_kid

You don't get that messing with linux. It's reliably right, or reliably wrong.

Code:

wine32-\
        \cygwin-\
                 \wine64-\
                          \cygwin-\
                                   \windows-64-\
                                                \KVM-\
                                                      \slackware64

But, but, ... it's fine, all works.. as intended.. supported.. etc.
Don't mind me, I'm just incredibly bored today

cwizardone · 02-17-2023, 05:19 PM

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Wine 8.2 Released
February 17, 2023
The Wine development release 8.2 is now available.
What's new in this release:
Better debug information in Wow64 mode.
Wow64 thunks in the WPCAP library.
Indeo IV50 codec support.
Monitor names set from EDID data.
Various bug fixes......

"News and Updates" at, https://www.winehq.org/

cwizardone · 02-19-2023, 11:03 AM

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Wine-Staging 8.2 Brings Support For Native ODBC Drivers Plus Fixes A 15 Year Old Bug
Michael Larabel. 19 February 2023.
Following Friday's release of Wine 8.2, Wine-Staging 8.2 is now available that ships with more than 530 patches atop the upstream Wine code-base to provide various experimental/testing features.......

The full story can be found at, https://www.phoronix.com/news/Wine-Staging-8.2-Released