Slackware is a dinosaur distro, stuck in the past.

For this reason, I think that they should've kept KDE 3. It is very irresponsible to ignore the needs of their user bas like they did moving to the new KDE.

Putting the new KDE on Slackware was like hooking a Blue-Ray player up to a 1970 RCA console TV. You can't really get full use from it, so why do that?

"Retro" users who want Slackware definitely want the old KDE. too, right?

I'm no Slacker, but your assumption that "Slackware is a dinosaur stuck in the past" is false. Slackware uses up-to-date stuff, it just installs it in a way that might be considered "stuck in the past", and THAT (from what I understand) is why slackers like their distro. Going to KDE4 in no way breaks that paradigm. There is nothing "Retro" about Slackware.

Forrest

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I don't know . . . I think I'll have to respectfully disagree.

This thread was started after my shock on seeing how old-school Slackware is:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...behind-748513/

Most of what I noted there is still true to this day. I've since learned that they do have a "package manager," but all it does is unzip tarballs straight into / . . . not exactly "cutting-edge" there.

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What you seem to consider necessary for a modern or cutting-edge distribution, many people here would just consider hand-holding for idiots who don't know how (or don't want to know how) to install and administer their machine. If that's what you want, go to another distribution and stop posting here.

Adam

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I'm not sure whether you are joking here or perhaps trolling. Would it be better to release the distribution with a DE that is no longer supported? This has been raised svereal times and people need to understand that releasing an update to a distribution that includes a component no longer being supported is madness and a big risk on many levels. As to the first stupid comments I will just choose to ignore those.
Well you are now really showing not only your ignorance of Slackware's package management tools and how they operate but perhaps also your real motives in posting.

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@tordfurden:
I think you don't get the point. Slackware is an up-to-date distro. That what you consider "dinosaur" and, in your mentioned post, "feeling like DOS" is wanted by design. Slackware wants to be very Unix-like, and they achieve it. So you didn't know that you have to partition yourself, that you have to start X yourself (setting it up that it starts straight into X should not be so difficult to achieve), and you didn't even know how package-management in Slackware works. You want to use a distro, and all you have done to inform yourself about it before installing it seems to be: nothing. And that is the distro's fault? If you don't like it, don't use it. There is absolutely no reason to insult the distro or their users.

By the way, I am no Slacker, I don't like some of their design decisions, but that is not my problem, no one forces me to use Slackware. And besides that, I prefer a good text-based installer to a graphical installer that gives me only half of the options. If hiding options from the user is more cutting edge, you should use one of the more GUI-centric distros, like Mint or Ubuntu.

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I'd hate to clue you in, but every package manager does this.

And it's nice to see you only are beginning to find out what a package manager is. It's funny that slackware has been around so long that you just barely learned this stuff.

Strange, dinosaurs are extinct, but slackware isn't. Also trolls aren't extinct either it seems.

On the main topic of this thread: kde 4 was a bumpy start for me but I'm very happy with it now. I think a few useful bits were lost in going from 3 to 4 and I can see that's a problem for a few folk, but not a majority.

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Slackware is OK! It has everything anyone may expect from modern Linux distro. I wish I could stay with -current version but the problem is that I cannot setup on a desktop environment as useful as KDE 3 - and it is not because I didn't try. KDE 4 doesn't work for me at this moment.

First off, the whole point of my origional post was to support the position of the OP. You know, that position that nearly everyone else in this thread has been romper-stomping all over.

Secondly, my reference to my previous post was to support my position that Slackware is outdated in the way that it does things.

Third, your post is needlessly inflammatory. Are you saying that all people who use distributions without text-based installers, text editor configuration, and graphics-free run-time are "idiots?" I guess people with cars that have an ignition and a starter motor instead of a crank are idiots, too? I wish you could hear yourself.

Finally, who are you to command people to stop posting? I must have missed the word "moderator" in your sidebar there . . . and they don't even tell people "stop posting here."

Every other package manager makes sure that the dependencies for your package are installed first. Ever other package manager makes sure that you're not installing another version of a package that you already have.

With Slackware's package manager, you may as well just issue the tar command yourself.

It's funny to me that you would say something like "it's nice to see you only are beginning to find out what a package manager is," when you're clearly so totally wrong in everything that you are saying. It's almost like you still don't really know what a package manager is.

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I never said that, and I don't believe that. I believe that many of those tools are geared towards idiots. I do not believe that everyone who uses said tools are idiots. There's a big difference that hopefully even you can understand.

Even if the comparison was even remotely analogous (it's not), I never said that or implied that.

It was a suggestion, just as your posts offer suggestions to the Slackware maintainers.

Umm . . .

You did. It seems like a pretty direct statement to me, but the argument could be made that all you did was imply that people who don't use Slackware are idiots.

Either way, it is highly inflammatory and inappropriate.

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That's why I love Slackware, I'm in control! I'm the administrator of my machine, not an automated, dependency checking package manager.
If you want dependency checking you'll need to migrate to another distro. Each to his own.

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Again, I said that many of the tools are geared towards idiots, not that everyone who uses them is an idiot. Nor did I even say that I believed that, but that many people on here probably do. Reading comprehension apparently isn't a strong point for you.

Adam