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Old 02-07-2008, 01:17 AM   #16
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http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...t=desktop+poll

That's a poll from 2006.
 
Old 02-07-2008, 01:33 AM   #17
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I was wondering what the reason was why in Slackware 12 kde is installed under / and not under /opt as was the case in Slackware 11.
Because /opt was never really the correct place for it to begin with. It was just the place the Qt people liked, and KDE got stuck in it from what I've been able to tell.

(...and before someone jumps up to show off their "knowledge", at the time that stuff started going into /opt, the only other things of consquence that were going into /opt were binary-only, non-free commercial things that linked to very little but the libraries they brought along and possibly libc.)

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It seems a bit that the way you select your partitions depends on the distribution.
That's generally the way things work.

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Old 02-07-2008, 01:34 AM   #18
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simcox1,

at that time i think i voted for kde, now everything is changed. before reading your post, i posted a poll. will it be ok ?
 
Old 02-07-2008, 02:18 AM   #19
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by b0uncer[QUOTE][In my own case I tend to think that if I have a reason to use Slackware, I don't have reasons to stick to something as - sorry for the mediasexy word - bloated as KDE is./QUOTE]
i agree with you. if anyone want mediasexy word why are they sticking to slackware, use suse( bulky -eating up resources)
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I used to use flux but switched to kde because it's so much easier when you can plug in say a usb stick and have the icon on desktop.
xfce does that toooo, but kde eating up resources
 
Old 02-07-2008, 02:25 AM   #20
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Would you also advocate writing udev rules for every single one of those devices, when I can use KDE and have everything working straight out of the box?
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These days, I don't put anything except /home on it's own partition. Everything else goes onto a 25 gig root partition (way too big for Slackware - but at least it has heaps of room to grow!).
if it works for kde then it should work for gnome and xfce. i use ivman with pmount i dont wrote any udev rules(one of these days i wil learn and write )
me tooo / and /home only 2 partitions
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Old 02-07-2008, 02:31 AM   #21
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When gnome was first included in slackware it also installed under /opt. It was soon changed to /usr though.
 
Old 02-07-2008, 04:25 AM   #22
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Then there are the SD cards, CF cards, and many other type of memory cards from various devices which my family have. Not to mention all the different types of music players.

Would you also advocate writing udev rules for every single one of those devices, when I can use KDE and have everything working straight out of the box?
Since when would it be necessary to do this? I think perhaps you're getting confused as to which thing is responsible for what. KDE's knowledge of what kind of media you're looking at begins and ends with what HAL tells it through dbus, and all it knows at that point is that the media is hot pluggable, whether or not it's writeable, and that there's methods to unmount it etc. All this information comes through dbus and isn't something KDE "knows" at all.
 
Old 02-07-2008, 05:05 AM   #23
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All this information comes through dbus and isn't something KDE "knows" at all.
Yes, but at least KDE takes the output from dbus and uses that information to react in whichever way I've configured it to, depending upon which type of device has been plugged in. As far as I'm aware, only Gnome, KDE and XFCE will listen to dbus. So-called "light weight" desktops like Fluxbox or Windowmaker don't.

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I think you can make a udev rule that will do that.
... which, technically, can be made to work if you really want to use something like Fluxbox or Windowmaker as your main desktop and get any sort of reaction out of it upon inserting a USB device. Of course, it would take some messing around, and probably wouldn't work as nicely as it does under KDE, Gnome or XFCE. This is the point I was trying to make...

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Old 02-07-2008, 09:39 AM   #24
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Would you also advocate writing udev rules for every single one of those devices, when I can use KDE and have everything working straight out of the box?
I don't care about stuff working out-of-the-box, I'll learn a lot more if nothing works out-of-the-box. I'm kinda lazy so this helps motivate me .

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I bet your car (or bike) has round wheels. I dunno if you've noticed, but they are very popular these days. Like it or not, you are a conformist...
Yes, but I'm not talking about extreme non-conformism. If I were that, I'd have a hover car or even better a hover tank with a plasma cannnon. Hell yeah !

That's not really my point. The point is you don't 'choose' the default, you simply fall through and are caught by the default. That's where most people end up if they don't make a choice. That's why I have to make a choice, so I don't end up there, because somebody established the default, and that somebody almost always does not have your personal good in mind, in fact they usually want to exploit you.

Now, don't take my word for it, keep going as you were before, pay no attention to me. Just throwing some bread crumbs out to starving populace.
 
Old 02-07-2008, 04:30 PM   #25
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That's not really my point. The point is you don't 'choose' the default, you simply fall through and are caught by the default.
In fairly broad computer terms, Microsoft Windows is the default. I don't think you can be considered to be "using the default" anything if you're running Linux in the first place.
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That's why I have to make a choice, so I don't end up there, because somebody established the default, and that somebody almost always does not have your personal good in mind, in fact they usually want to exploit you.
You're stuck in a proprietary software mindset there, my friend. Nobody here wants to exploit you. Sure, I've paid for Linux and even bought books and additional software for it, but at the end of the day nobody is trying to lock me in. The stuff I paid for is available for free.
 
  


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