[SOLVED] Transfering DVD and Blu Ray discs to my Slackware machine

H_TeXMeX_H · 01-11-2011, 02:10 AM

Here's mine:

Code:

qvdpautest 0.5.1
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad  CPU   Q9300  @ 2.50GHz
NVIDIA GPU GeForce 8800 GTS 512 (G92) at PCI:1:0:0 (GPU-0)

VDPAU API version : 1
VDPAU implementation : NVIDIA VDPAU Driver Shared Library  260.19.29  Wed Dec  8 12:27:03 PST 2010

SURFACE GET BITS: 901.217 M/s
SURFACE PUT BITS: 985.805 M/s

MPEG DECODING (1920x1080): 78 frames/s
MPEG DECODING (1280x720): 156 frames/s
H264 DECODING (1920x1080): 45 frames/s
H264 DECODING (1280x720): 99 frames/s
VC1 DECODING (1440x1080): 125 frames/s
Profile unsupported.

MIXER WEAVE (1920x1080): 2321 frames/s
MIXER BOB (1920x1080): 4090 fields/s
MIXER TEMPORAL (1920x1080): 1040 fields/s
MIXER TEMPORAL + IVTC (1920x1080): 670 fields/s
MIXER TEMPORAL + SKIP_CHROMA (1920x1080): 1358 fields/s
MIXER TEMPORAL_SPATIAL (1920x1080): 401 fields/s
MIXER TEMPORAL_SPATIAL + IVTC (1920x1080): 337 fields/s
MIXER TEMPORAL_SPATIAL + SKIP_CHROMA (1920x1080): 462 fields/s
MIXER TEMPORAL_SPATIAL (720x576 video to 1920x1080 display): 1449 fields/s

MULTITHREADED MPEG DECODING (1920x1080): 77 frames/s
MULTITHREADED MIXER TEMPORAL (1920x1080): 893 fields/s

It looks like for you post-processing is quite slow, but the rest is good.

lpallard · 01-11-2011, 07:04 AM

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It looks like for you post-processing is quite slow

what could explain that?

H_TeXMeX_H · 01-11-2011, 09:16 AM

See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_postprocessing

lpallard · 01-11-2011, 11:43 AM

Very good link! That got my mind going in some areas of that video processing stuff... This specific statement from wikipedia got me thinking:

Quote:

...post-processing is the process of changing the perceived quality of a video on playback (done after the decoding process)

Thats exactly what I was talking about. The playback seems slow, somehow choppy at moments and some jerkiness happens... I played with the nvidia control panel with the driver settings and I wonder if its not the cause of these glitches. What are you guys using in your driver options ?

If I recall, I activated V-Sync and some OpenGL stuff.... There might be some tweaking to do with the driver. I'm pretty sure I activated flipping (OpenGL) and trilinear interpolation. According to the driver's tool tips these were the options for best image quality but would slow down the performance right?

H_TeXMeX_H · 01-11-2011, 11:59 AM

I would make sure that you don't force/override application settings, this may cause performance issues. Just enable vsync and flipping and high image quality and texture sharpening. Also, I would run movies only using the 'vo=vdpau' option. Are you running the latest drivers ?

lpallard · 01-11-2011, 09:10 PM

OK here's the option I have with driver 260.19.29 (it was the latest driver a few days ago).

In the Video Texture Adaptor section I have Sync to VBlank unchecked;
In the OpenGL/Performance settings I have Sync to VBlank (unchecked) & Allow flipping (checked) with a slider for image settings (set at high performance)
In Anti-aliasing settings it is set as "Use application settings" and Anisotropic filtering (override application settings) is unchecked. Texture sharpening/Texture quality is checked.

Powermizer is set at high performance but comes back every time to adaptive by itself....

disturbed1 · 01-11-2011, 11:16 PM

Your test results are quite low. Appears about on par with an Ion, GT210, or GT8400. Users with those GPUs experience similar results as you -- non fluid playback of 1080P material.

I have a GT220 - qvdpautest has a sample output from another user's GT220. These results are comparable to my GT220. Slightly less than H_TeXMeX_H's 8800.

Not entirely sure about your GT430. Logic dictates your card should be at least as fast as my GT220. Reading some articles on the GT400 series reports weak 3d performance on Maya and CUDA programs. Even though games themselves may have a decent frame rate, the compute GPUs on this series is weak compared to previous generations.

Any GT8800, GT9800, or GT220/240/250 will perform much better than a GT430.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce...and_trade-offs

I'm personally not buying all that though. Your GT430 should have absolutely zero issues playing a 1080p h264 stream (BluRay). I believe it's a configuration issue.

To rule other issues (xorg.conf, DE compositing). Use the following as your xorg.conf (yes that is actually all the more info you need

) and log into Fluxbox. Pres alt-F1 to launch xterm and execute mplayer from the commandline to watch you movie.

Code:

Section "Device"
   Identifier     "Device0"
   Driver         "nvidia"
   VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
EndSection

I'll post the qvdpau results from my GT9400. This 9400 is paired with a Celeron E1400, and has no issues with 1080P h264 material.

disturbed1 · 01-11-2011, 11:36 PM

Code:

qvdpautest 0.5.1
Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU        E1400  @ 2.00GHz
NVIDIA GPU GeForce 9400 GT (G96) at PCI:1:0:0 (GPU-0)

VDPAU API version : 1
VDPAU implementation : NVIDIA VDPAU Driver Shared Library  260.19.29  Wed Dec  8 12:27:03 PST 2010

SURFACE GET BITS: 745.928 M/s
SURFACE PUT BITS: 737.723 M/s

MPEG DECODING (1920x1080): 78 frames/s
MPEG DECODING (1280x720): 154 frames/s
H264 DECODING (1920x1080): 45 frames/s
H264 DECODING (1280x720): 97 frames/s
VC1 DECODING (1440x1080): 121 frames/s

MIXER WEAVE (1920x1080): 330 frames/s
MIXER BOB (1920x1080): 546 fields/s
MIXER TEMPORAL (1920x1080): 164 fields/s
MIXER TEMPORAL + IVTC (1920x1080): 119 fields/s
MIXER TEMPORAL + SKIP_CHROMA (1920x1080): 215 fields/s
MIXER TEMPORAL_SPATIAL (1920x1080): 79 fields/s
MIXER TEMPORAL_SPATIAL + IVTC (1920x1080): 65 fields/s
MIXER TEMPORAL_SPATIAL + SKIP_CHROMA (1920x1080): 90 fields/s
MIXER TEMPORAL_SPATIAL (720x576 video to 1920x1080 display): 269 fields/s

MULTITHREADED MPEG DECODING (1920x1080): 69 frames/s
MULTITHREADED MIXER TEMPORAL (1920x1080): 137 fields/s

Not a huge difference between my 9400 and your GT430

H_TeXMeX_H · 01-12-2011, 02:46 AM

I just tried it and 1080p videos seem to run fine with my graphics card. The CPU usage is a bit high tho, around 70-90 % on one core. I usually don't run 1080p, because they don't fit on my screen, and I don't notice a quality difference between these and 720p (what I usually run), but there is a huge size difference.

lpallard · 01-12-2011, 07:07 AM

If you advise to replace the card, please let me know asap, I can do it for free... Just pay the difference between this one and the next one. II want no trade off on this htpc.

disturbed1 · 01-12-2011, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lpallard

If you advise to replace the card, please let me know asap, I can do it for free... Just pay the difference between this one and the next one. II want no trade off on this htpc.

That's up to you

Here's a result from another 430 - which appears to be inline with your 430
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/show...&postcount=330
Here's a GTX580 which is slower than my GT220
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/show...&postcount=325
GT260
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/show...&postcount=313
GT240
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/show...&postcount=282

Seems as if these new GPU cores in the 400 and 500 series are quite slow compared to GT2xx and the GT88/98 GPUs. I know, personally, when I upgrade my GPU it's going to be either to a GT24/5/60 or a GT9800 depending on what kind of deal I can find. I've honestly not read good reports from anything in GT400/500 series.

H_TeXMeX_H · 01-12-2011, 09:22 AM

Before getting a new card, make sure it isn't bad source media or a bad conversion. Try the files on more than one computer.

lpallard · 01-12-2011, 04:46 PM

Hey H_TeXMeX_H, I understand what you are saying, but we are discussing about the results of the vdpau benchmarking tool... The numbers produced by the 4/5XX series are horribly far from the 2XX series with ratios up to 10X worst and above... thats scary.

My main concerns is having a GPU that is almost maxed out already with normal 1080p content... there is no margin to play around. THe 2XX series are performing literally 10X better in the MIXER elements whatever they are. Like I said on the nvnews forum, I dont know what they mean so I cant comment, but I find absurd athat a new generation GPU is 10X behind an older generation. Being behind would be bad but with 10X ratios...

As for the mkv rips I did, yes they might be bad but I believe they are not the problem. I tried with some video samples from all over the web and same result, I can see some slow-downs and overall the playback does not feel "fluid".

The world of video cards is depressing... from an ATI card that could barely display a mouse cursor to a Nvidia card that has no support for hdmi sound and bad video performance! haha

lpallard · 01-30-2011, 03:16 PM

Hey guys! back with some questions:

I have a movie somebody ripped, but it was split in 4 independent .vob files. They all play well, except I' like to merge them as a single file. Preferably mkv or mp4 containers. I can transcode them individually to these containers but I tried to merge (join) them and failed. They become off sync and/or playback freeze when arrived at the junction btween two files...

What are you using to go from individual vob files to a single file?

Second question (I think this one will be rather simple): I have a few dvd's that I "ripped" in my windows days... The discs were ripped and the content was dumped in a VIDEO_TS folder with files such as:

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VIDEO_TS.BUP
VIDEO_TS.IFO
VIDEO_TS.VOB
VTS_01_0.BUP
VTS_01_0.IFO
VTS_01_0.VOB
VTS_01_1.VOB
VTS_01_2.VOB
VTS_01_3.VOB
VTS_01_4.VOB
VTS_01_5.VOB
VTS_02_0.BUP
VTS_02_0.IFO
VTS_02_0.VOB
VTS_02_1.VOB

How to you bring this mess to a single file? I am thinking using handbrake GUI but since the trans-coding process is pretty long, I'd rather ask before I try and fail.

Thanks!!!!

H_TeXMeX_H · 01-30-2011, 03:19 PM

I use vobcopy to rip dvds, you can specify a directory where it is mounted or where the VOB files are.