Slackware "support"

bassmadrigal · 03-28-2016, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by enorbet

I'd give up all the improvements made since 3, including Dolphin over Konqueror, just to have that simpler . far more intuitive Desktop.

Are you familiar with Trinity Desktop Environment (TDE)? It continues KDE3 where they left off. They had a recent release, R14.0.3, in February 2016.

There are SlackBuilds available here, here, and here, although, for the last, per this thread be wary of some of the author's instructions.

I haven't tested any of these, so I don't know which is better (or even which versions of Trinity they build), so that matter is left for you to entertain if you feel so inclined

Skaendo · 03-28-2016, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by keithpeter

2008 vintage Thinkpad X61s with BIOS set to run just one core and with a single 512Mb RAM card in as a test.

Runs XFCE4 DE OK with some swapping (a few Mb) when using Firefox. Responsiveness can be increased by using custom entries to the 'hosts' file to cut out some of the more intrusive remotely served animated adverts found on many Web pages. Installing the 'noscript' plug in can further increase responsiveness. I just 'allow' Web sites that I visit regularly (e.g. BBC).

Other applications seem to run fine unless doing something ambitious with huge files.

I have 2 almost identical '07 Dell Inspirons w/2 Ghz Core2Duo's & 4 GB RAM each.

#1 (daily driver) is running full Slackware64-current using KDE 4 99% of the time and I use Pale Moon Web Browser. I know that things could run better on newer hardware, but I haven't seen anything that would make me consider switching to anything else. Pale Moon is amazing. I have yet to see that browser slow down after using it for about a year now. It does get a bit intensive still when visiting those hog sites, but I have a 15,000+ line host file that "trims the fat" so to speak.

#2 is running Slackware64-current minus KDE & XFCE. I have Cinnamon DE on that and it is quite a bit more responsive, but still a little quirky. Some bugs need to be ironed out yet.

Compiling still takes the same amount of time between the two (obviously).
swap hardly ever gets used, I have it set at 8 GB and once in a while I'll notice ~600 MB in there at most.

So if I were you, I would just take the plunge and upgrade to 14.2 when the time comes.

a4z · 03-29-2016, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by enorbet

While I heartily agree that Slackware is in no way "heavier" even with vast improvements KDE 4 is considerably more complicated and heavier than KDE 3. I do not subscribe to the FUD that "KDE has gone to hell in a handbasket" but I frankly do wish v3 was still available. I'd give up all the improvements made since 3, including Dolphin over Konqueror, just to have that simpler . far more intuitive Desktop. Smartphones are a wonder unto themselves but they surely did compromise PCs.

I was totally against KDE4 when it came out, there is even a thread where I suggest to remove it from Slackware.
but with the more stable version, I would not want to go back to a KDE3,
and KDE4 is not that heavier, at least if you turn off the indexing and the akonadi stuff
if you open firefox or chrome it really does not matter if your XFCE uses ~170MB or your KDE ~250MB ram,
konqueror is still available in KDE4

keithpeter · 03-29-2016, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Skaendo

So if I were you, I would just take the plunge and upgrade to 14.2 when the time comes.

About a week ago I installed 13.0 on this X61s by booting from a 14.1 .ISO and nominating my local mirror as the source of packages (mirrorservice.org in UK, JISC - taxpayer - funded and just down the road from me in Internet terms). Ran very well by the way. I then decided to test the UPGRADE.TXT instructions...

I then upgraded from 13.0 -> 13.1 -> 13.37 -> 14.0 by mirroring just the slackware/packages less kde/kdei for each release (around 1Gb download each time). Booted into each release and applied patches. Rebooted and played around a bit before the next one.

Then I just went from 14.0 -> current yesterday. Missing out 14.1 is not recommended but no obvious ill effects so far. Two issues both caused by fault between monitor and keyboard, I had to work out how to update some of the .conf files and had a bit of fun with those.

Slackware has an extremely systematic and consistent approach to upgrading. Put the right files in the right places and it all works!

kikinovak · 03-29-2016, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by bassmadrigal

Are you familiar with Trinity Desktop Environment (TDE)? It continues KDE3 where they left off. They had a recent release, R14.0.3, in February 2016.

There are SlackBuilds available here, here, and here, although, for the last, per this thread be wary of some of the author's instructions.

I haven't tested any of these, so I don't know which is better (or even which versions of Trinity they build), so that matter is left for you to entertain if you feel so inclined

For those who want to test Trinity, give Q4OS a spin.