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I lived through most of it, but hearing the history run-through in linuxuserspace#219 was a nice nostalgia trip and even though both hosts said they wouldn't choose to run slackware themselves as a daily drive, they clearly "got it", which is more than we can say for most reviewers, whose thought process typically starts and ends with "It's not like Ubuntu!.. Don't like!".
I really enjoyed this episode. It is always interesting to hear the impressions of other Slackware users. As a relatively new Slackware user, having started on Slackware 14.1, the history was fun to review. I hadn't read the ChangeLog from "the beginning".
Linux Saloon about Slackware, listening now, feeling sick so not had so much energy lately
That was an interesting insight into what some people like or expect from a Linux distribution.
It makes me sad to some extent that some of them had no knowledge of nor interest in the underlying Unix system, and were only interested in using GUIs and reading as little as possible. Learning Unix gives you a life time of knowledge that you can use everywhere - even in other OSs.
Today for example I spent a few minutes writing a shell script using a simple while construct, parsing a text file and using openssl, grep and sed. This saved me over two days of mind numbing labor. Whether you use Slackware or a BSD or whatever historical Unix OS you can access, knowing how to use the shell and the tool set available opens up a world of possibilities unavailable within a GUI.
I could have run that script on any Linux distribution, and with a little more work I could have made it portable to MacOS or Solaris or BSD (because I was using GNU extensions to some of the tools, which are not present on the other Unixes (or weren't when I looked last 15 yrs ago)).
I thought they had some valid and balanced points in general - specifically about Slackware.
The Art of Unix Programming is a great read. I encourage everyone to read that. They explain the design of Unix, the philosophy behind it. I do love Unix - I think everyone should :-)
That was an interesting insight into what some people like or expect from a Linux distribution.
It makes me sad to some extent that some of them had no knowledge of nor interest in the underlying Unix system, and were only interested in using GUIs and reading as little as possible. Learning Unix gives you a life time of knowledge that you can use everywhere - even in other OSs.
Although I agree with you, I can understand that the typical user is not a tinkerer and has no interested in "what is under the hood" (they just want to drive the car, not be a mechanic and service it themselves).
Linux in general has historically been an OS for technical users.
That type of user has always been (and always will be) a very small subset of the total.
If you want to attract more users to linux you have to abstract the underlying system through a simpler interface, and that is what most distros did by adding GUIs for (almost) everything.
That is not a bad thing!
The underlying system will always be there, regardless of the GUI, so the technical user will be happy.
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