[SOLVED] Slackware Linux Questions / Dúvidas sobre o Slackware Linux
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"Slackware Linux doesn't require an extremely powerful system to run (though having one is quite nice . It will run on systems as far back as the 486. Below is a list of minimum system requirements needed to install and run Slackware.
486 processor
64MB RAM (1GB + suggested)
About 5GB + of hard disk space for a full install
CD or DVD drive (if not bootable, then a bootable USB flash stick or PXE server / network card)
Additional hardware may be needed if you want to run the X Window System at a usable speed or if you want network capabilities. "
2 - It is possible to install packages in which formats or extensions (.tar.gz, tar.bz2, tar.xz, .dep and etc.)?
3 - Does Slackware Linux have its own package or does it use various package formats?
4 - Is it possible to install packages without internet access?
5 - Is it possible to download only the packages with all dependencies with a computer connected to the internet and copy the packages to be installed manually on other computers without an internet connection? (This should be the main way for me to install programs)
6 - How are the programs organized? Where are the installed programs located? Or what is the file system?
7 - Does the Slackware operating system have Portuguese translation into Portuguese or Brazilian Portuguese?
I don't know this ".iso.asc" extension, is this "slackware64-live-14.2.iso.asc" the full version?
The main objective is to reuse donated or discarded computers / notebooks that have about 512MB up to 2 GB of RAM with DDR1 or DDR2 technology and Intel processors: Pentium IV, Celeron, Atom and AMD processors: Athlon, Duron and etc.
I thank you for your attention.
Original text in Brazilian Portuguese, translated into English by Google translator.
"Slackware Linux doesn't require an extremely powerful system to run (though having one is quite nice . It will run on systems as far back as the 486. Below is a list of minimum system requirements needed to install and run Slackware.
486 processor
64MB RAM (1GB+ suggested)
About 5GB+ of hard disk space for a full install
CD or DVD drive (if not bootable, then a bootable USB flash stick or PXE server/network card)
Additional hardware may be needed if you want to run the X Window System at a usable speed or if you want network capabilities."
2 - É possível instalar pacotes em quais formatos ou extensões (.tar.gz, tar.bz2, tar.xz, .dep e etc.)?
3 - O Slackware Linux possui pacote próprio ou usa vários formatos de pacotes?
4 - É possível instalar pacotes sem acesso a internet?
5 - É possível fazer somente o download dos pacotes com todas as dependências com um computador conectado na internet e copiar os pacotes para serem instalados manualmente em outros computadores sem conexão com a internet? (Esta deverá ser a principal forma para eu instalar programas)
6 - Como são organizados os programas? Onde ficam localizados os programas instalados? Ou qual é o sistema de arquivos?
7 - O sistema operacional Slackware possui tradução para português de Portugal ou português do Brasil?
Eu não conheço esta extensão ".iso.asc", este "slackware64-live-14.2.iso.asc" é a versão completa (full)?
O principal objetivo é de reutilizar computadores / notebook doados ou descartados que possuem cerca de 512MB até 2 GB de memória RAM com tecnologia DDR1 ou DDR2 e processadores Intel: Pentium IV, Celeron, Atom e processadores AMD: Athlon, Duron e etc.
Desde já agradeço pela atenção.
Texto original em idioma português do Brasil, traduzido para o inglês por Google tradutor.
Many of your questions are answered at the Slackware Documentation Project. Before you do your first Slackware installation read the ample, available information.
It looks as though your requirements for package management are well satisfied by Slackware. Slackware packages are simple tarballs which are unpacked locally. Of course you have to get them from somewhere. The initial source is your installation image; unlike most distros Slack provides a full install, not just a core set of programs. For updates, you will need an internet connection but only for downloading the packages. And yes, you can easily update an entire network from one machine.
File system and organisation is the same as for most other Linux distros. Look it up.
You mention dependencies. Slackware doesn't track dependencies. It doesn't need to because the full install satisfies the dependency needs of everything on it
I hope I can find the answers to my doubts in the link that Hitest was kind enough to inform.
Hazel, so I can reuse the same tarball similar to an installation on MS Windows, that is, with the same installer is it possible to be used on other computers?
In order for me to be able to reuse programs from online installations, in which folder do I find the files?
Thank you
Original text in Brazilian Portuguese, translated into English by Google translator.
marcelocripe
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Hitest e Hazel,
Agradeço por responderem.
Eu espero poder encontrar as respostas as minhas dúvidas no link que o Hitest fez a gentileza de informar.
Hazel, então eu poderei reaproveitar um mesmo tarball semelhante a uma instalação no MS Windows, ou seja, com um mesmo instalador é possível ser utilizado em outros computadores?
Para eu poder reaproveitar os programas das instalações online, em qual pasta encontro os arquivos?
Obrigado
Texto original em idioma português do Brasil, traduzido para o inglês por Google tradutor.
I hope I can find the answers to my doubts in the link that Hitest was kind enough to inform.
Good morning, marcelocripe!
If the on-line documentation does not answer your specific questions you can also take a look at the Slackware installation media. There are lots of how to documents on the DVD. We are of course happy to answer questions here at LQ. I suggested that you read the documentation so that you are fully prepared and successful when you install Slackware. The Slackware installer program does not have a GUI; it will not hold your hand. Pay particular attention to the section on how to partition your hard drive; you will be required to do that manually.
Have fun!
1 - What is the minimum hardware specification (Processor and RAM) and which is recommended for running Slackware Linux in graphical mode?
I think those requirements are a little out of date, but not by much. Much of 14.2 is now compiled for i586 architecture, so anything not supporting that wouldn't work (i586 was introduced with the original Intel Pentium back in 1993 -- pretty much anything in the last 25 years will support i586).
For RAM, I think some found they couldn't boot the installer with less than 128MB of RAM due to the modern kernel and initrd. However, once installed and switched to the generic kernel, I believe they were able to go back to 64MB.
Also, for a full install, I think 14.2 is close to 10GB (it might be a hair under 9GB). You can slim down the installation more, but this can be difficult due to not having listed dependencies for official packages.
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2 - It is possible to install packages in which formats or extensions (.tar.gz, tar.bz2, tar.xz, .dep and etc.)?
3 - Does Slackware Linux have its own package or does it use various package formats?
Slackware has its own package format. As hazel mentioned, they are simply tarballs that are extracted at the root of the system. They can have different file extensions based on the compression used. The most common are tgz (gzip) and txz (xz).
Slackware does include rpm tools, so it can technically install an rpm, but I would not recommend doing this. It does include rpm2tgz to convert rpms to a Slackware package, but that can come with its own problems. Slackware does have tools that allows extraction of deb packages.
NOTE: Slackware does not have any official packages beyond what is offered on your installation media. It is recommended to do a full install. For any programs you're interested in that aren't included with Slackware, you will need to find a different binary repo or use compile it. There are projects like SlackBuilds.org, commonly called SBo, that have build scripts to build additional programs. These build scripts, commonly called SlackBuilds will compile the program and save the results in a Slackware package that you then use the system tools to install the package.
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Originally Posted by marcelocripe
4 - Is it possible to install packages without internet access?
Packages have to be downloaded locally to install them. You can do that using normal methods (browser, wget, etc) or you can use slackpkg, which will connect to a Slackware mirror and download the files to install them. The actual package manager is not internet capable (slackpkg is simply a script to download packages from a server and present them to a user to install, however, it uses the package manager scripts, installpkg/upgradepkg to actually install them).
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Originally Posted by marcelocripe
5 - Is it possible to download only the packages with all dependencies with a computer connected to the internet and copy the packages to be installed manually on other computers without an internet connection? (This should be the main way for me to install programs)
Yes. You can download all the stock packages from any Slackware mirror. On stable releases, patches are stored in the patches/ directory on your favorite mirror and all can be downloaded and stored on a thumbdrive or whatever method you want to use to transfer them.
For 3rd-party packages, you can move those packages as well, just make sure you are paying attention to any dependencies as the Slackware package manager doesn't resolve them at all.
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Originally Posted by marcelocripe
6 - How are the programs organized? Where are the installed programs located? Or what is the file system?
Official packages are organized into sets. The sets are explained in Section 3 under the Slackware-HOWTO. The sets don't take into account dependencies.
Otherwise, Slackware is the same as most distros. Slackware mostly follows the FHS. One thing Slackware does that not all distros do (but many of them do) is 64bit libraries will be installed to /usr/lib64/ instead of /usr/lib/. The installer does default to ext4, but it gives you additional filesystems you can choose.
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Originally Posted by marcelocripe
7 - Does the Slackware operating system have Portuguese translation into Portuguese or Brazilian Portuguese?
Slackware does not officially support internationalization beyond what programs already offer them. You could check out https://slint.fr which started out as an internationalization effort that morphed into a Slackware-derived distro. Slint does support Portuguese in the installer.
I don't know this ".iso.asc" extension, is this "slackware64-live-14.2.iso.asc" the full version?
This was for an old version of Slackware Live based on 14.2. Slackware Live is not an official Slackware project (but it was developed by one of the core Slackware developers, Alien Bob). The actual ISO is missing (either by mistake or Alien Bob removed it since it was so old). The current Slackware Live releases are based off -current, which is a development version of Slackware that will eventually become the next stable release. While it is generally stable, it can cause breakage without notice of 3rd-party programs as core libraries are updated in the system.
Since you're running this on older hardware, there's likely little benefit of running -current, so I'd just recommend grabbing a normal ISO of Slackware (or Slint) to install.
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Originally Posted by marcelocripe
so I can reuse the same tarball similar to an installation on MS Windows, that is, with the same installer is it possible to be used on other computers?
In order for me to be able to reuse programs from online installations, in which folder do I find the files?
If you download the full ISO, the installer would be completely offline and you can use that installer on any computer whether or not it has internet access.
For official package updates, if you use slackpkg, the downloaded packages are saved at /var/cache/packages, otherwise they'd be stored wherever you downloaded them.
For 3rd-party packages, it will depend on how they're built. If you use a build script from somewhere like SBo, it's usually set to save packages in /tmp/ before installing them.
"Slackware Linux doesn't require an extremely powerful system to run (though having one is quite nice . It will run on systems as far back as the 486. Below is a list of minimum system requirements needed to install and run Slackware.
486 processor
64MB RAM (1GB+ suggested)
About 5GB+ of hard disk space for a full install
CD or DVD drive (if not bootable, then a bootable USB flash stick or PXE server/network card)
Additional hardware may be needed if you want to run the X Window System at a usable speed or if you want network capabilities."
That is old and out of date information. The website needs an update
486 processor
64MB RAM (1GB+ suggested)
About 5GB+ of hard disk space for a full install
CD or DVD drive (if not bootable, then a bootable USB flash stick or PXE server/network card)
Additional hardware may be needed if you want to run the X Window System at a usable speed or if you want network capabilities."
That is old and out of date information. The website needs an update
Agreed. If you're going to run 64 bit Slackware I would recommend a minimum of 4 GB of RAM, 8 GB would be better.
Thanks to all your considerations and for bringing an overview of Slackware, now I can get an idea of what to find.
I come from the "Windows world", since I started researching this the "Linux world" (what a gigantic world!), I realized that each Linux distribution is equivalent to a different country and some distros are equivalent to different continents.
Before starting this topic, on 08/27/2020, I did a lot of research and did not find the information regarding my questions, which makes it more difficult for a newbie to find what he needs, for example, basic information about ISOs, minimum hardware requirements, types and methods, program installations, tutorials, etc.
The truth is, that without help it is impossible to learn alone.
Another piece of information that I found and that I was unable to confirm is true or not, that Slackware Linux has been maintained only by Patrick Volkerding since 1993? Isn't it the community that keeps this distribution alive? Does it depend on Patrick Volkerding for Slackware to stay alive?
Thank you very much.
Original text in Brazilian Portuguese, translated into English by Google translator.
marcelocripe
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Bassmadrigal,
Eu agradeço por responder.
Graças a todas as suas considerações e por trazer uma visão geral do Slackware, agora eu consigo ter uma ideia do que encontrar.
Eu venho do "mundo Windows", desde que comecei a pesquisar este o "mundo Linux" (que mundo gigantesco!), percebi que cada distribuição Linux equivale a um país diferente e algumas distros equivalem a continentes diferentes.
Antes de iniciar este tópico, no dia 27-08-2020, eu pesquisei bastante e não encontrei as informações a respeito das minhas perguntas, o que tornam mais difícil para um novato encontrar o que precisa, por exemplo, informações básicas sobre as ISOs, requisitos mínimos de hardware, tipos e métodos instalações dos programas, tutoriais e etc.
A bem da verdade é, que sem ajuda é impossível aprender sozinho.
Um outra informação que eu encontrei e que eu não consegui confirmar se é verdadeira ou não, que o Slackware Linux é mantido apenas por Patrick Volkerding desde de 1993? Não é a comunidade que mantém esta distribuição viva? Para o Slackware continuar vivo depende apenas do Patrick Volkerding?
Muito obrigado.
Texto original em idioma português do Brasil, traduzido para o inglês por Google tradutor.
Another piece of information that I found and that I was unable to confirm is true or not, that Slackware Linux has been maintained only by Patrick Volkerding since 1993? Isn't it the community that keeps this distribution alive? Does it depend on Patrick Volkerding for Slackware to stay alive?
Yes. Mr. Volkerding is the maintainer of Slackware. He also has a core group of trusted, volunteer Slackware developers who help to bring us the next stable release. Slackware users from around the World submit bug reports and software solutions.
Another piece of information that I found and that I was unable to confirm is true or not, that Slackware Linux has been maintained only by Patrick Volkerding since 1993? Isn't it the community that keeps this distribution alive? Does it depend on Patrick Volkerding for Slackware to stay alive?
As hitest mentioned, Patrick Volkerding is the maintainer of this distro. Nothing goes in or comes out without his say so. He is one of a few Benevolent Dictators For Life (BDFL). He does have several people he trusts that will handle updates for certain parts of the distro, but he still makes the decision on whether to incorporate those updates or not.
If Pat were to move onto something else, Slackware will likely continue on, but the person/people who take it over may have changes they've wanted done that Pat hasn't felt keen to do. So I don't know if Slackware will remain the Slackware we've come to enjoy over the years (could become something better or something worse).
Slackware is the oldest surviving distro. It's now 27 years old! Here's hoping we see it get to 54 years old and still going strong!
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