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Old 10-23-2004, 11:02 AM   #1
gotmonkey
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Slackware 10 update question


Looking for a suggestion or some insight.

I installed slackware 10 the other night: full install & gnome desktop as my window manager. I have an ATI 9700pro video card, so I ran the guide that has worked for me before & it worked as usual (dri enabled: glxgears & fgl_glxgears working just fine). Then I downloaded swaret and configured it to hit the linuxpackages sites. I ran swaret --update, then swaret --upgrade.

Here is where the problem starts.
After the upgrade was complete, I rebooted the system and no longer had access to gnome or kde. It gave me errors consisting of "Core keyboard driver not found". I thought that the upgrade might have changed something. So I tried to re-run flgrxconf, the driver installed, & no startx. I was still getting the same error regarding the keyboard. I tried several different keyboard options and nothing seemed to work. I re-ran xorgconfig like I did at installation and I was able to get into gnome (just a 2d desktop).

Any idea what happened?

I played around with it for a few hours and became fed up. So, I reloaded Slack. I am currently in a 2D desktop with gnome. I installed swaret, but haven't ran any updates or upgrades and I haven't installed the Current ATI drivers. The question is: Should I do a system update to bring everything up to current levels, then install the ATI drivers? Install the ATI drivers, run the updates/upgrades & do some config suggestion? or just install the ATI and no system update/upgrade?

any insight, help, or suggestions would be greatly appreciated
thanks
 
Old 10-23-2004, 12:15 PM   #2
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Well, swaret upgraded all packages include X.org, the latest X.org release changed the keyboard driver to keyboard or kbd instead of Keyboard. So next time after upgrading, change a line in your xorg.conf that says Driver "Keyboard" to Driver "keyboard" (or Driver "kbd").
I would recommend to install the drivers after the update, just in case. If you don't want to "fix" stuff then stay with slackware-10 in the update program that will just apply security patchs, else, point to current.
Actually, slackware-current is very stable, but you've to keep an eye on the changelogs and be able to see a difference in a package. IE: the ALSA driver package on slackware-current is compiled for kernel 2.4.27 so if you've kernel 2.4.26 you shouldn't update it.

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Old 10-23-2004, 12:52 PM   #3
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so maaany screw ups ufter blind "swaret --update, then swaret --upgrade"

When will ppl learn?
 
Old 10-23-2004, 02:22 PM   #4
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Not sure suslik, but you think they would after awhile.....


You still have to read the changelogs. I would suggest you do that right away monkey. There have been other things besides the keyboard call. Some apps have been dropped and some added. Swaret or slapt-get are not, nor will they ever be apt-get, unless Pat V decides to change his package management setup to include dependency checking.
 
Old 10-23-2004, 02:34 PM   #5
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Thanks for the quick responses. You are probably right suslik, the blind update thing was not a good idea. I was just trying to stay current with my packages, I was programmed by windows methodology... install and immediately update. The question is: How do you know when or what to update?

Thanks gbonvehi, I will try to remember that. If I do the update, where would I find changelogs? when I ran the update to get the list of current packages, it showed a ton of things not installed.
 
Old 10-23-2004, 02:37 PM   #6
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for current:
ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackwar.../ChangeLog.txt
 
  


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