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Old 08-23-2013, 01:10 PM   #1
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Should Slackware scripts still allow/mention installation with floppy disks?


I just came across that question (again), localizing in French manual page for makepkg.

In this specific case, the manual advises not to use Bash extensions in an installation script as it could fail in case of installation from a floppy disk (I personally favor POSIX compliant syntax as much as I can anyhow, but that's not the point here).

More generally, does anyone know of a remaining use case for installation from floppy disks?

If not, maybe we could get rid of mentioning floppy disks' usage, as well as code to use them, say in Slackware scripts shipped in Slackware 14.2 or 15?
 
Old 08-23-2013, 01:33 PM   #2
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An interesting poll question would be "What was the most recent Slackware distribution you installed using floppy disks?"
 
Old 08-23-2013, 05:32 PM   #3
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You can't install from floppy disk any more as there are numerous packages that are larger than 1.44MB

I think the only reason the code is still there as removing it would take a lot of care to ensure the scripts aren't broken in the process and there is always more important things to worry about.
 
Old 08-24-2013, 01:07 PM   #4
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An interesting poll question would be "What was the most recent Slackware distribution you installed using floppy disks?"
Not Slackware, but Debian Potato. Minimal base system installed from a couple of 1.44" BOOT & ROOT floppies on a 486 laptop back in 2001.
 
Old 08-24-2013, 01:35 PM   #5
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Just out of sheer curiosity how many floppy disks would it take for a recent version of slackware to fit on if one would want to install from a floppy disk?
 
Old 08-24-2013, 04:46 PM   #6
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at 1.4 meg ?
more than the 1.5 boxes( 24 count) of unused blank 3.5's that i have and more than the 1/2 box of used disks .For a total of 50 disks
 
Old 08-24-2013, 09:20 PM   #7
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at 1.4 meg ?
more than the 1.5 boxes( 24 count) of unused blank 3.5's that i have and more than the 1/2 box of used disks .For a total of 50 disks

Thanks, I was just curious. I remember the 5 & 1/4 inch disks and like to keep things in perspective.
 
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Just out of sheer curiosity how many floppy disks would it take for a recent version of slackware to fit on if one would want to install from a floppy disk?
Roughly 1.000 floppy disks.
 
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Roughly 1.000 floppy disks.
heh... boy would that be a long install... assuming it were even possible.
 
Old 08-25-2013, 08:49 AM   #10
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With my luck disk #357 would be bad.
 
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Old 08-25-2013, 08:53 AM   #11
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Can you even buy a box with a floppy drive?

Would you want to?

Why?
 
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Can you even buy a box with a floppy drive
no
but there are still a few new 3.5 in drives sitting on shelf's so you could buy one
The same goes for disks . They are no longer made but there is still some in inventory at a few places .

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Would you want to?
if you had to move a lot of old data off a LOT of disks , you might .
 
Old 08-25-2013, 01:59 PM   #13
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Errr, I used a Floppy disk to Flash a Bios on a Police Laptop repair. Upgraded it so it could boot off of usb.
 
Old 08-25-2013, 02:09 PM   #14
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rokytnji and John VV, thanks for reminding us that floppy disks still can be used to flash a BIOS, or move data from a computer if that's the only usable media for that purpose.

My initial question remains though: any remaining case of using floppy disks to install Slackware ? (or at least some packages, as kernels nowadays are way too big).
 
Old 08-25-2013, 05:48 PM   #15
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My initial question remains though: any remaining case of using floppy disks to install Slackware ? (or at least some packages, as kernels nowadays are way too big).
Nobody will be installing a recent version of Slackware on floppies any time soon, but I believe the installer is designed to be able to install any version of Slackware, so the floppy stuff is still in there.
 
  


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