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Old 10-13-2019, 11:15 PM   #1
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Konqueror is cool


Yo, decided to install KDE for its HiDPI support, and, despite how far I went with making my Xfce setup fit my aesthetics, I realized how much I appreciated the crisp look of KDE, and although I'm using KDE 4, I found an app in the Slackbuilds called "homerun" that serves as a dashboard/overlay, like the one that's available in KDE 5 and Gnome (xfce4-appfinder is really useful in Xfce too), but homerun looks a lot nicer to me than the default one in KDE 5, so I'm as happy as a clam.

Then I realize dolphin is adding extra shortcuts on the left pane for Home, Root, Trash, and Network. The list just gets larger every time I open it. Weird.

Well, I'm in the Default Applications getting ready to switch the default file manager to Midnight Commander, because I figured it was the best alternative file manager to use, unless it frustrated me enough to search the Slackware packages for all shipped file managers, when I wonder to myself if mc has a gui launcher in Slack like htop does? I open homerun and I type in "mc". Nothing. Okay, how about "midnight".

You know what? Konqueror pops up. "Konqueror: Midnight Commander". Holy crap. I remember stumbling on this y e a r s ago. Now I can just tar xf right there without needing to use a gui app (if I can find out how to make the console follow the active pane).

Then what happens? I opened the Slackbook, in konqueror mc-mode. It opened right inside, because, of course, konqueror's a web browser too! Maybe primarily, I don't know. I never understood the point of a file manager and web browser in one until now. Browsing the docs on the left and the files on my right, until I head over to LinuxQuestions in it. This is suddenly reminding me of Emacs, since I can open a text editor in the prompt - a full user interface program, not just run scripts in it.

This is sweet.
 
Old 10-14-2019, 01:51 AM   #2
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Yeah, Konqueror has always been an excellent piece of software. It was one of my favourite things about KDE3.

You can pop a CD in and drag/drop to rip tracks (or the whole album), in whatever format you choose... Can't do that with Windows!
 
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Old 10-14-2019, 04:50 AM   #3
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Then I realize dolphin is adding extra shortcuts on the left pane for Home, Root, Trash, and Network. The list just gets larger every time I open it. Weird.
You must be referring to Places. Doesn't do that ("just gets larger every time I open it") here. I like it, I put most frequently used directories in Places. The only thing I see in Places is Home, Root, Trash and the directories I have added. You can easily control what is shown in places, you can hide places altogether if you don't like it.
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Old 10-14-2019, 04:14 PM   #4
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You must be referring to Places. Doesn't do that ("just gets larger every time I open it") here. I like it, I put most frequently used directories in Places. The only thing I see in Places is Home, Root, Trash and the directories I have added. You can easily control what is shown in places, you can hide places altogether if you don't like it.
I mean that every time I open Dolphin, it adds new shortcuts for those Places in the left sidebar, even when I already have them. So first I have one set of icons for Home, Root, etc. Then I close and reopen Dolphin - now I have two sets. Then I close Dolphin, and reopen it - now I have three sets. Close, open - now I have four sets.
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Old 10-15-2019, 02:12 AM   #5
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I mean that every time I open Dolphin, it adds new shortcuts for those Places in the left sidebar, even when I already have them. So first I have one set of icons for Home, Root, etc. Then I close and reopen Dolphin - now I have two sets. Then I close Dolphin, and reopen it - now I have three sets. Close, open - now I have four sets.
Wow, that is strange. Something must be amiss. Dolphin should not be adding repeats.

I went back and reread your first post. Seems you are using KDE4. I'm on Eric's ktown. Still Dolphin shouldn't be doing that. I you using Slackware 14.2 or Slackware-current?

Based on this thread, I also started playing around using Konqueror too.
 
Old 10-15-2019, 12:01 PM   #6
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Can you create a new user and see if it happens there? I'm guessing this is an issue with your user profile, but creating a new user would verify that. If it works fine with another user, we can take the nuclear approach and just delete (or rename) your ~/.kde folder or you'd have to dig through there and find the konqueror related files and delete those.
 
Old 10-16-2019, 12:03 PM   #7
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Can you create a new user and see if it happens there? I'm guessing this is an issue with your user profile, but creating a new user would verify that. If it works fine with another user, we can take the nuclear approach and just delete (or rename) your ~/.kde folder or you'd have to dig through there and find the konqueror related files and delete those.
I'll try that and report
 
Old 10-16-2019, 05:41 PM   #8
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I tried to do some digging on your dolphin problem, although I haven't used kde 4 in years and have wiped it for kde 5 so I cant test any of this out.

It seems that there was a bug in versions older than 4.14.8 that caused the ~/.kde/share/apps/kfileplaces/bookmarks.xml file to grow excessively and cause the duplicate entries, eventually slowing dolphin significantly. This was fixed and kde switched to using ~/.local/share/user-places.xbel, as shown in this bug report circa 2015:

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347246

This shouldn't matter since kde 4 has been upgraded in the slackware 14.2 branch. However, I did stumble upon a forum discussion about this issue from the same time:

https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?...cc5bb&start=15

If you read on the second page one of the posters mentions that the homerun application seems to remake the bookmarks.xml file and causes issues with dolphin again, even after the fixed versions of kde 4. Seems they reccomended not using homerun with kde 4.

Like I said, I can't really verify this since I don't have kde 4 installed so its all second hand info. Might be worth looking into for your case though.
 
Old 10-18-2019, 02:24 PM   #9
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I used to use OFM (Orthodox File Manager) a lot.
Before i used Krusader.
Krusader-2.5.0 versions and higher use libraries like Qt5 and KF5.
Sometimes when i use dolphin i press F3 it's not OFM but at least split window.

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Old 10-19-2019, 11:06 AM   #10
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So I created a new user, loaded KDE, and checked dolphin's behaviour - it didn't have the same issue. At least I know it's fixable then
 
Old 10-19-2019, 11:16 AM   #11
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You could try running homerun with the new user to see if it changes dolphins behavior afterwards. I would be curious if it would confirm if the problem is caused by conflicting config files from the two file managers (or not).
 
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I was going to look into patching this but it seems that montagdude did just that in 2016. Just found this with a web search:

https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...in-4175585757/

No need to reinvent the wheel here.
 
Old 10-22-2019, 12:01 PM   #13
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You could try running homerun with the new user to see if it changes dolphins behavior afterwards. I would be curious if it would confirm if the problem is caused by conflicting config files from the two file managers (or not).
I'll try that and let you know.

Thanks for looking into this!
 
  


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