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Old 03-29-2005, 04:06 AM   #16
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LOL no i meant this one:

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ok red,

seeing all the distro you're using i just HAVE to ask.

i start missing some 'control' over my slack box, surely because of my unexperience. this is the point: with GNOME being abandoned by slack, i feel i depend pretty much on dropline and other people's choice on what/when to upgrade which package.

i'd like to have a linux box that i can easily select what i really need (not the standard 16,000 packages installed all over the place), mainly compile from source (not linux core like gentoo, but softwares) - and for both of these reasons i really enjoyed the slack experience. but, i'd also like to have a package management that does work (seems that apt-get really IS unbeatable), easily update things like gnome 2.10 without the need to ask to anyone, X.org (not XFree), and a good community behind.

...would you have any recommandations on distro / slackware methodology to achieve what i'm looking for...?

cheers and thank you,

aj.
 
Old 03-29-2005, 04:24 AM   #17
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If you really like GNOME and want easy package management then from the list of distros that I use, then Ubuntu and Fedora/Redhat would be better for you. The reason why I say this is that both are based on GNOME so their GNOME desktops are quite polished. As for package management, Ubuntu uses apt by default with synaptic as a gui frontend. The good thing is that dependencies are resolved automatically and they have a large number of prebuilt packages. Fedora/Redhat can also use apt and synaptic, but thre is also yum (built in by default), which does a similar thing but the gui frontends are not as good as synaptic in my personal opinion.

What I suggest you do is to download the Ubuntu live version or a live Cd, thats a Fedora derivative. If you have some free disk space, you can even download the instalable versions and try them out.
 
Old 03-29-2005, 04:40 AM   #18
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thanks red i'll do that.

i thought that ubuntu was a little too out-of-the-box. i might be wrong.

cheers,

aj.
 
Old 03-29-2005, 05:30 AM   #19
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You are right, Ubuntu is a bit too out of the box, but then again you can always change what you don't like and uninstall unnecessary packages.
 
Old 03-29-2005, 05:40 AM   #20
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If you like Slackware's speed and simplicity, but want easy package management, and like GNOME, you might want to consider giving Arch a try. It's a bit 'user unfriendly' to begin with, but not significantly more so than Slack once you've got it up and running.
 
Old 03-29-2005, 05:45 AM   #21
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hi axel,

believe it or not i was on http://www.archlinux.org/ right now

i think i'm gonna give it a try. too many weird things happen to me using GNOME under slack, most certainly out of my unexperience. but for instance, menu editing in GNOME 2.8 simply doesn't work and i don't know where to look (dropline? slack? permissions?).

maybe starting from arch will allow me to grow as a linux user. after all, i started this whole process less than 4 months ago

cheers,

aj.
 
Old 03-29-2005, 06:22 AM   #22
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Quote:
Originally posted by acidjuice
hi axel,

believe it or not i was on http://www.archlinux.org/ right now

i think i'm gonna give it a try. too many weird things happen to me using GNOME under slack, most certainly out of my unexperience. but for instance, menu editing in GNOME 2.8 simply doesn't work and i don't know where to look (dropline? slack? permissions?).

maybe starting from arch will allow me to grow as a linux user. after all, i started this whole process less than 4 months ago

cheers,

aj.
Well I can't remember about menu editing in 2.8, but in 2.10 it has been completely removed. One of many reasons I stopped using Gnome. If you really wan't Gnome on Slack try these packages. That's about as clean as it gets. No 2.10 (yet) though. I don't know if there will be. GSB hasn't worked for me yet (have tried it three times), but it just doesn't feel vanilla (partly because it hasn't worked yet ). It feels Dropline bloaty.
 
Old 03-29-2005, 06:42 AM   #23
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packages... packages...

i feel like installing arch linux without anything installed and building my own gnome!

problem is, not sure that i can manage this step...
 
Old 03-29-2005, 06:50 AM   #24
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Quote:
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packages... packages...

i feel like installing arch linux without anything installed and building my own gnome!

problem is, not sure that i can manage this step...
I hope you have too much time on your hands . Building Gnome is a bitch.
 
Old 03-29-2005, 06:54 AM   #25
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damn no, i have not.

however, do you have any other solutions to have a system running slack or similar (this is why i was referring to arch linux) running gnome 2.10?
 
Old 03-29-2005, 07:01 AM   #26
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Well, for a good Gnome desktop I would recommend Ubuntu. Altough if you want 2.10 you need to update to Hoary, which isn't quite stable yet.
 
Old 03-29-2005, 07:54 AM   #27
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thank you for all of your inputs...

cheers,

aj.
 
Old 03-29-2005, 11:32 AM   #28
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With all due respect... The origianl Poster had asked about hosting a web server, not the latest and greatest desktop. Ubuntu is terrible fo rthat becuse they're so close to the bleeding edge. A more stable release, even RHEL is a much better Idea, though I'mnot sure what enviroment the poster is going to deploy his server, I would recoment something that's not going to eat his resources by wasting important cycles on gnome or KDE.

Also, I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that ubuntu is 100% debian linux, Fedora Core is not Debian linux. as such ubuntu has almost nothing to do with fedora core linux
 
Old 03-29-2005, 11:56 AM   #29
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mrgenius,

sorry but i actually did ask about the best way to have gnome with slack...
 
Old 03-29-2005, 12:00 PM   #30
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Sorry, I guess I missed that...

I was still tracking your original question. I don't actually care about gnome on slack, I run gentoo and debian distros and get gnome prepacked when the dev's get around to it. heh so maybe I'll get gnome in 6 months.
 
  


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