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Old 09-18-2023, 08:32 PM   #1
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6.1.52 vs 6.5.3 performance compare


A quick sysbench check with up-to-date 15.0 shows performance differences between 6.1.52 and 6.5.3 are at the background noise level.

Attached is the test script named 'stest.log' per forum restrictions on uplodads.

Hardware: ryzen 9 laptop on AC power.

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File Type: log stest.log (1.1 KB, 70 views)
 
Old 09-19-2023, 01:19 PM   #2
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And the results are ... ?
 
Old 09-19-2023, 04:25 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by lazardo View Post
A quick sysbench check with up-to-date 15.0 shows performance differences between 6.1.52 and 6.5.3 are at the background noise level.

Attached is the test script named 'stest.log' per forum restrictions on uplodads.

Hardware: ryzen 9 laptop on AC power.

Cheers,
have you realize what will happen if a user run as script what you uploaded?
 
Old 09-19-2023, 05:31 PM   #4
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And the results are ... ?
Attached. diff friendly.

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Old 09-19-2023, 05:34 PM   #5
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have you realize what will happen if a user run as script what you uploaded?
It runs if sysbench is in $PATH, else it aborts.

LQ has an irrational upload policy based on file extension.

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Old 09-20-2023, 01:18 AM   #6
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geez man, just write the take-home message...
 
Old 09-20-2023, 10:54 AM   #7
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A quick sysbench check with up-to-date 15.0 shows performance differences between 6.1.52 and 6.5.3 are at the background noise level.

Attached is the test script named 'stest.log' per forum restrictions on uplodads.

Hardware: ryzen 9 laptop on AC power.

Cheers,
The only performance problems were intel (and limited to some newer CPUs) related. Issues were fixed in 6.5.3
No performance drop was reported for AMD except AMD Inception Mitigation that depend on workload type so users may not even notice it.
Overall no performance loss expected with the latest kernel when comparing to 6.1.x
 
Old 09-20-2023, 02:11 PM   #8
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No performance drop was reported for AMD except AMD Inception Mitigation that depend on workload type so users may not even notice it.
Overall no performance loss expected with the latest kernel when comparing to 6.1.x
99% of the performance / mitigations dialog is from observations in the server and kernel development environments where side channel awareness is reality, and testing is with mitigations in place.

For LAN environments where performance is important, mitigations=off and DIY self-testing is more useful than other people's opinions.
 
Old 09-20-2023, 03:52 PM   #9
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It runs if sysbench is in $PATH, else it aborts.

LQ has an irrational upload policy based on file extension.
My objection has to do with this: Script needs almost 70 GB of disk space.This should be mentioned in the post and not just to script as
Code:
File = 64G
My 10 -year -old son would even break his system... Well, on the one hand, because it should not run every script he finds ... but I still think it should be mentioned in your post not only in script.
Anyway since only I complain, maybe I'm not right.
 
Old 09-20-2023, 05:24 PM   #10
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My objection has to do with this: Script needs almost 70 GB of disk space.This should be mentioned in the post and not just to script as
Code:
File = 64G
My 10 -year -old son would even break his system... Well, on the one hand, because it should not run every script he finds ... but I still think it should be mentioned in your post not only in script.
Anyway since only I complain, maybe I'm not right.
I understand your perspective, but the script writers is different.

The [slackware] forum postings are mostly people resolving technical or preference issues, some fairly complex, and all scripts/code fragments/suggestions assume some degree of domain knowledge to make use of. Note the value was parameterized, not in-lined.

Also 64G is not a magic number, smaller values, even a few GB, work with less accuracy.
 
Old 09-20-2023, 05:52 PM   #11
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99% of the performance / mitigations dialog is from observations in the server and kernel development environments where side channel awareness is reality, and testing is with mitigations in place.

For LAN environments where performance is important, mitigations=off and DIY self-testing is more useful than other people's opinions.
no, to see how mitigations can affect the performance, one runs kernel with and without the mitigations. Phoronix is doing this for pretty long time.
Also, if you are testing zen, your test is worthless for general audience.. because there is too many things that can be customized.

Please read this: https://www.phoronix.com/review/arch-linux-kernels-2023
to inderstand why for testing general performance, stable/stosk kernel is best

Last edited by Aeterna; 09-20-2023 at 07:40 PM.
 
Old 09-21-2023, 01:04 PM   #12
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no, to see how mitigations can affect the performance, one runs kernel with and without the mitigations. Phoronix is doing this for pretty long time.
Also, if you are testing zen, your test is worthless for general audience.. because there is too many things that can be customized.
...
Did you read the starter post?

*) 'sysbench quick perf test between 6.1 and 6.5' does not imply mitigations or architecture testing.

*) I don't use mitigations on LAN side and have never considered a/b testing.

*) Phoronix ignores results significance. Pretty graphs, a lot of tiny differences that are not useful [to me].

Time to lock this post for comments.

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