I just wondered. Can I get (download) Redhat Enterprise Linux?

I know I can get Fedora. What about people that want experience with it, but don't have it at work. How would one go about getting their hands on RHEL?

I don't want to run it illegally or anything. I simply would like to play with it at home for future RHCE stuff.

Thanks
Whitehat

How would one get it?

Ah, get out a credit card and buy it like your supposed to?

Its corporate edition enterprise software. That stuff is never free

You could download the source for everything in RHEL, but that woudl be really, really ridiculous and not at all easy.

I would seriously just recommend getting Fedora instead, since it is pretty much RedHat 10. If you are just dying to play with the server stuff to become an RHCE, I'd look into finding out if you are eligible for a student discount. If worse comes to worst, you could always just buy it as the other guy suggested... considering its only $345 a year and you most certainly spend more than that on vices every quarter, you can probably afford it. The student discount brings it down to something like $50, but I don't remember exactly.

You could tone down Fedora or install the latest ISO of RH8 and then roll your own versions of the EL-specific packages and hash them out on your own system.

Most of what you learn for RHCE is not tied explicity to the RHEL, though... You can learn 90% of it from Fedora if you get the right study guides. RHCE was not designed as a ridiculously expensive process.

Cool.

Good to know. I know RH 7.3 fairly well, so it's no big deal.
I'm not a student and I don't spend that much money on vices I drink only a small amount of wine here and there.......and I don't smoke

It's no big deal. I just wanted to make sure there was not a way that I was overlooking. I will most likely stay with RH 7.3 for my Redhat Server stuff

Peace,
Whitehat

Just curious, but did you ever try suse? Suse 9 comes with cd's and a double sided dvd. And it has this habit of giving you gui configs for all the things it can do. Basically, it has every type of network service and server that exists in linux...

You haven't learned your lesson about Red Hat yet?

Trust me, they are going to be as bad or worse than M$ about hunting down pirates.

Do yourself a favor and go to a truly Open Source distro; Red Hat has never been one. It has been playing possum all these years...just waiting for the right time to strike.

I knew Red Hat's heart back in 1999 when I knew then where they were headed. That is why I chose Mandrake.

BTW, I am not saying to "choose Mandrake"; I am saying to choose -ANY- distro that is truly open source. I might be going to Gentoo shortly myself.

And, how long before they pull the same BS that Red Hat did? Especially now since Novell bought them.

Maybe you aren't aware of Novell's history in aquiring companies?

I think you all are misunderstanding. All of your responses are as if I've never used Linux before. There is nothing wrong with Redhat! I am not trying to pirate anything (so please get off this "quit trying to pirate Redhat" thing!).

I think SuSE sucks. Mandrake is a distro built off of Redhat (might want to think about that Nu-Bee). I think Mandrake also sucks.

And just so you know........in a corporate world where you have 60+ servers and over 1000 workstations CIO's are not going to let you just throw up a Mandrake or Gentoo server. Come on . They want you to throw up a "well known" Linux server so they "feel good" about it. Do I like that? No. DO I want to get some sort of Linux in place at work rather than nothing? Yes. Does my Boss know who Redhat is? Yes? Does he know about any other Linux distro? No!

Because of this, Redhat Experience will be recognized more than any other in the job field. This is why I want to get experience on it.

Thanks for your replies. I'll just have my boss buy a copy so I can test it out.

Peace,
Whitehat

And, how long before they pull the same BS that Red Hat did? Especially now since Novell bought them.

Maybe you aren't aware of Novell's history in aquiring companies? [/QUOTE] ,


Maybe never? Since suse 9.0 isnt enterprise, and Suse has never been fully focused on enterprise like redhat has? Unlike craphat.. Suse actually had a large loyal user base buying the "Pro" version of their software every time it was released, rather than going.. "Ooh, the iso's are out the iso's are out!"

So grow up and stop comparing everything to microsoft. These linux companies arent out their sticking their product into everything we own. They step up when asked by another company to make something, but they dont go.. hey that toaster could use linux!

A library in rural louisana has taken all the source files of RHES 3 and created a identical "legal" free package of 3 ISO's. I've tried it, it looks and works just like the "real" thing.

They don't want their webpage linkned but if you google "White Box Linux:.....

Try out Whitebox Linux. I have. It is identical except it has no Red Hat Logo's. They were all removed. Make sure you get the ISO's that are marked "fixed".

Something well-known doesn't necessarily mean something that lasts long.
Anyone sticks on a shrinking distro today will find him/herself in big trouble soon.

The linux world has changed dramatically.
There are so many options out there.
Why not make a choice before it is too late?

whitebox linux?? wow, that sounds cool. what was your experience using it? is it buggy? better than RH 9?

and where do you download rpms for it?

i am just a newbie who has been playing around with RH9 so i dont know much.

According to the RedHat Enterprise Linux ES 3.0 "End User Licesnse Agreement" - everything within the RedHat disks are freely distributable except the "RedHat" name and the "ShadowMan" and "RedHat" pictures... In other words RedHat's branding.

I read the EULA, and the great thing here is the RedHat EULA goes so far as to tell you which of the few RPM files need to be changed for the entire thing to be distributable. For this reason, Whitebox is a great way to get the software, without buying the "name".

For those who can't Google for it themselves, here are some links...

Whitebox Linux Home
Whitebox Linux Download

Edit 2 -> Use BitTorrent to be nice to their limited bandwidth.

Edit 1 -> That said ... to previous posters... if you need RedHat simply because of it's name recognition (and not the specific functionality), or perhaps because you need Enterprise Support options - then this is exactly why RedHat can, and deservingly will, charge for their Enterprise Linux products. You want the "name" because of your CIO's blindness to Linux ... your CIO will have to find the budget to pay for said name.

or you can buy the WBEL3.0 3 cd disk set from www.edmunds-enterprises.com for 7.47 USD, and it'll be in your mailbox in 3 days, if you're a disk-rupturer at iso's like i am...