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Old 10-18-2006, 01:02 AM   #16
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To me, "ignorant" implies a willful disregard for knowledge, while "uninformed" is just that, uninformed. See the term "ignorance" in the same dictionary you referenced, Sepero.
ig·no·rance Pronunciation (gnr-ns)
n.
The condition of being uneducated, unaware, or uninformed.


I'm not trying to be the grammar police, but it mentions nothing of willful intent. If an average child of 5 years old hasn't had the training to know their ABC's, then they are ignorant, irregardless of intent. If you think ignorant or ignorance is something else, perhaps you should write your own dictionary. (ok, slight sarcasm there)
 
Old 10-18-2006, 01:36 AM   #17
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ig·no·rance Pronunciation (gnr-ns)
n.
The condition of being uneducated, unaware, or uninformed.


I'm not trying to be the grammar police, but it mentions nothing of willful intent. If an average child of 5 years old hasn't had the training to know their ABC's, then they are ignorant, irregardless of intent. If you think ignorant or ignorance is something else, perhaps you should write your own dictionary. (ok, slight sarcasm there)
Ok I see. you have to click on something else there, but still freedictionary.... here is the link
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/ignorant
 
Old 10-18-2006, 04:14 AM   #18
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i can not understand where these viewpoints are coming from. i should be sad that my software reached a brand new audience without me having to do any of the leg work? my software was worth a publishing firm mass producing discs with my own code on it. the more you expand on how you percieve this situation the more unfeasible it seems. If the linux world worked the way you want it to people would spend all day thanking each other and never get anything done. you have to base your expectations in a real world that includes corporate business, LUG's and everything inbetween. everything you're saying is generally positive and admirable but it needs to be heavily reigned back when the real world comes into play.
 
Old 10-18-2006, 04:54 AM   #19
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Unfortunately Chris is right. In real world you do not actually wait for people to thankyou everytime. It is simply a waste of time. The one's who appericiate do so willingly and there's really no time to brood over the one's who didn't. In the Linux world it is even more true.
 
Old 10-18-2006, 05:17 AM   #20
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I'm not trying to be the grammar police, but it mentions nothing of willful intent. If an average child of 5 years old hasn't had the training to know their ABC's, then they are ignorant, irregardless of intent.
since we're on a bit of a grammar theme:
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Originally Posted by thefreedictionary.com
ir·re·gard·less
adv. Nonstandard
Regardless.
[Probably blend of irrespective and regardless.]
Usage Note: Irregardless is a word that many mistakenly believe to be correct usage in formal style, when in fact it is used chiefly in nonstandard speech or casual writing. Coined in the United States in the early 20th century, it has met with a blizzard of condemnation for being an improper yoking of irrespective and regardless and for the logical absurdity of combining the negative ir- prefix and -less suffix in a single term. Although one might reasonably argue that it is no different from words with redundant affixes like debone and unravel, it has been considered a blunder for decades and will probably continue to be so.
http://from http://www.thefreedictio...m/irregardless

I don't mean to stir up trouble, it's just one of my pet peeves
 
Old 10-18-2006, 05:20 AM   #21
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well, he who is without blame... yada yada yada...
 
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true dat
 
Old 10-18-2006, 05:58 AM   #23
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Guys/Girls/Bots!

Let's all agree to get along, OK? It would be nice if everyone was acknowledged as they deserved, I'm sure we all agree. But (a) there's not much people here at linuxquestions can do about what happens on ebay (even if it were justified) and (b) arguing among ourselves doesn't take Puppy forward. So rather than distract Barry with trademark questions, test out the latest release and file your bug reports - or even better, your bugfixes!

Cheers,
Mark
 
Old 10-18-2006, 06:07 PM   #24
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Thanks for the correction, pwc101. You can replace that word in my paragraph to "with or without regard".
 
Old 10-18-2006, 07:59 PM   #25
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Guys/Girls/Bots!

Let's all agree to get along, OK?

Cheers,
Mark
I, for one, enjoy the banter.
 
Old 10-19-2006, 03:53 AM   #26
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Thanks for the correction, pwc101. You can replace that word in my paragraph to "with or without regard".
No worries I'm glad you didn't take it the wrong way.
 
Old 10-19-2006, 06:25 AM   #27
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No worries I'm glad you didn't take it the wrong way.
I was ignorant about the background of "irregardless". Now I'm informed.
 
Old 10-19-2006, 05:40 PM   #28
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I, for one, enjoy the banter.
Well, banter can be fun but in this case it's clogging a forum which we are trying to maintain as a useful information resource.

I'm sure you will respect that, so thanks in advance,

Mark
 
  


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